once a month basic-H as an animal wormer

I've used DE in the animals' water trough. It's not noticeable, increases their health through deworming and added minerals, and actually inhibits algae growth. I cleaned the trough half as often with DE in it, and even when I did there was no noticeable algae.

Though this thread is very old, I am also so here goes.  

Regarding Paul's comment about Basic H (not 2H, I don't know about it) not being organic, we operated a certified organic livestock operation until my wife passed in Feb, 2017.  We were certified by Ecocert Canada and my wife submitted sufficient evidence of the purity and organic status of Basic H that Ecocert approved it for worming our cattle.  

I deeply appreciate this post because I am sure that is how my wife wormed our livestock guardian dogs and house cats.  However, I did not know that and vets succeeded in pressuring me into worming them with allopathic pills.  One of the dogs got very ill.  I won't nor, thanks to this post, do I need to do that again.  I have lots of Basic H left. (-:

BTW, insofar as Diatomaceous Earth is concerned, we were a distributor for PermaGuard for a time.  I put together this page on DE that many said was the best single source for info on DE on the web.  Here's the URL - http://www.gaia-tree.ca/DE/PhoebeDE.html. Note that any links to Pinnacle Farms won't work.

Basic-H is an amazing cleaner.  I'm just about out with a quarter bottle left - about two years supply - so last week I went to get more from my local Shaklee's dealer to buy some more.

I didn't end up getting any because my dealer says that the manufacturer changed their recipe recently and as my Shaklee's dealer is also famous in town for their eco-friendly cleaning services, the dealer can no longer carry the Shaklee's brand.  I contacted a few other dealers in town and they are also discontinuing that line due to the recipe change.  

I haven't done the research myself, but the general theme I got from talking to these people is that the product is drastically different and no longer as non-toxic and/or eco-friendly as it used to be.  A word of caution: if you use this product for your animals, research the new recipe FIRST! I'm hearing stories that it is no longer safe for internal use.

But like I said, this is hearsay.  If true, I'm very sad because Basic-H was one of the few cleaners I would spend actual money on because 1) it didn't hurt my skin, 2) it lasts forever - the less you use, the more it cleans and 3) because it lasts so long, it was the most affordable product I found.

I'm not sure if I'm going to try the new product.  

I have wormed my goats with Basic H for decades. I have seen live tapeworms pass the next day. I don't always see worms pass. Within a week everyone has a glossy coat. If I remember to give it to them once per month all summer, they stay in excellent physical condition with beautiful coats. It is good to give the mother Basic H water the day she freshens. I give my goats 1 teaspoon per gallon of water. This is the only water they get to drink for 24 hours. I use it any time. I don't have to dump milk. It works mechanically, not chemically, so worms are never resistant. I copied the dosage below off the internet in case you have a large herd.

"Measure out Classic Basic H for the animal you are trying help eliminate worms. For cows, use 1 cup per 100 gallons of water or 1/8 cup per 20 gallons of water. For smaller animals like goats and sheep the dosage needs to be smaller. Measure out 6cc. or use 2 drops per 10# of animal weight."

I have never used the small dose. I give the dose Joel Salatin gives his cattle once per month. Classic Basic H (the blue one) is still available. I mix one teaspoon per gallon of water.

I have never given my goats a chemical wormer. I tried herbal wormers in the past and also DE. Neither worked like I hoped. Basic H works every time. When people visit my farm they always comment how healthy the goats look. Keeping their worm load down is a big part of it.

r ranson wrote:Basic-H is an amazing cleaner.  I'm just about out with a quarter bottle left - about two years supply - so last week I went to get more from my local Shaklee's dealer to buy some more.

I didn't end up getting any because my dealer says that the manufacturer changed their recipe recently and as my Shaklee's dealer is also famous in town for their eco-friendly cleaning services, the dealer can no longer carry the Shaklee's brand.  I contacted a few other dealers in town and they are also discontinuing that line due to the recipe change.  

I haven't done the research myself, but the general theme I got from talking to these people is that the product is drastically different and no longer as non-toxic and/or eco-friendly as it used to be.  A word of caution: if you use this product for your animals, research the new recipe FIRST! I'm hearing stories that it is no longer safe for internal use.

But like I said, this is hearsay.  If true, I'm very sad because Basic-H was one of the few cleaners I would spend actual money on because 1) it didn't hurt my skin, 2) it lasts forever - the less you use, the more it cleans and 3) because it lasts so long, it was the most affordable product I found.

I'm not sure if I'm going to try the new product.  

You can still get the Classic (original) Basic H - it now only comes in 5 or 30 gallon drums and the blue dye has been taken out of it. The newer version is called Basic H2 and only comes in smaller quantities and is reformulated and even more concentrated than the original Basic H. It is highly recommended to only use the Original Classic Basic H for live stock, farming, orchards, gardening, etc. You can order it online at www.srkindred.com

For many years on the ranch we used basic H in our stock tanks. The cows loved it. The sheep loved it. When slaughtering our animals for meat the butcher's discovered we had a notable lack of liver flukes and heartworms even though we did not use poor on dewormers. The basic H kept the stock tanks clear of algae and stinger bugs that live in the water in Montana. If there's a downside to using basic H with livestock we never encountered it.

Can you tell me the dosage of classic basic H is worm chickens? Ive read 2 drops for 10 # weight but is that diluted in 8 oz of water or a gallon or how much?

Thank you!!