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Bridget Evab wrote:...will I find a helmet at a thriftstore first, or manage to get some plexiglass? Time will tell...



Thriftstore, Craigs, FB Marketplace...

Polycarbonate is tougher in cold weather than plexiglas.  Any respectable window, glass and door shop should be able to set you up with either one, as well as most hardware and building supply stores.  A buddy of mine just replaced one of the safety glass lights on the cab for the smaller of his "green" brand tractor with polycarbonate.  This light had been broken out twice already, due to the front-mounted blower hitch poking it; it's just very tricky to connect and disconnect if the ground is at all uneven.
1 week ago
Bridgett -

Happy to be able to pass on a little of my experience in Big Snow Country.

Every time I hear of dreadful natural disasters - fires, hurricanes, tornadoes, mud slides, volcanic eruptions and more - I say to my wife: "I happy to deal with the snow and bugs, rather than that!"  Maybe it's just "the devil you know", but I've made the same calculus as you and reached the same conclusion.

The lengthiest (most complete) version of the Corps of Engineers report that I could spot is here:
https://www.poa.usace.army.mil/Portals/34/docs/engineering/MP5420,%20Ventilating%20Cathedral%20Ceiling%20to%20Prevent%20Problematic%20Icings%20at%20Their%20Eaves.pdf

However, the charts and tables are more legible in this slightly shorter version, here:
https://www.poa.usace.army.mil/Portals/34/docs/engineering/MP-02-5778,%20Guidelines%20for%20Ventilating%20Attics%20and%20Cathedral%20Ceilings%20to%20Avoid%20Icings%20at%20Their%20Eaves.pdf

I may have a copy on my external hard drive, as well.  If so, and it's better than either of these, I'll post it, but these should give you enough to go on.

Anyway, this shows the trade-offs you can make between insulation and ventilation space, and has a model with good predictive power with regard to the required minimum vent space under various circumstances.  Converted attics would fall under the "cathedral ceilings" category, more than likely, as might a story-and-a-half (similar to a high posted Cape Cod) which has been insulated under the pitch of the roof.  If someone stapled up "propper vents" (somewhat like a foam or plastic meat tray from the butcher shop) to maintain an air space under the roof deck before they blew in cellulose, you'll be just fine.  If they filled between the rafters with fiberglass without maintaining a vent space, you may need to take some remedial action, but this paper will give you some ideas.

And, I concur, hang on to the blower attachment for the tractor, at least until you have gone through a winter or two.  If you find you don't really need it, there will be a ready market for it.  And, probably for your services with it, should you find that you only need it "sometimes".

If you don't have a cab for the tractor (even a canvas soft cab), then a full-face snowmobile helmet may make life a lot more bearable.  Two hours of intermittent white washes courtesy of Ma Nature while cleaning out the driveway may be "bracing" the first time or two, but it will get old.  Between good insulated coveralls (mine are off brand, but I usually get my brother Carharts for Christmas) and a full face helmet, it will be a whole lot more tolerable. If you have a cab on the tractor - or better yet, a heated cab! - then you'll be in the very lap of luxury!

Kevin
1 week ago
Bridget -

Another thing worth keeping an eye on when considering properties is snow loads on roofs.

In my county, snow loads are specified at 80 pounds per square foot (before any modifiers).  But the adjacent county - and I'm within perhaps 5 miles of the county line, as the crow flies - is specified at 100 pounds per square foot.  I think they're even higher near The Soo.  (For those in metric land, this is about 360 kilograms per square meter and 450 kilograms per square meter - assuming I did the conversion correctly).

These aren't Lake Tahoe, Mount Hood or other western ski area snow loads, but for east of the Mississippi, they're non-trivial.  Keep the local roof loads in mind when constructing outbuildings, sheds and barns and frame accordingly.  I framed a 10-foot wide gambrel roof shed (for attic storage space) with 2X6 trusses, and don't regret it, though 2X4 probably would have been fine.  But, I don't want to be on tenterhooks every time we get a storm, since it's at our lake property and I may not always be able to get out there pronto.

Metal roofs are quite popular, but they are not a panacea.  If you don't install snow guards, the snow may slide off in places, at times, and in quantities that you do not want.  Asphalt tabs (not very permie) - especially architectural grade shingles - will hold up pretty well.  Cedar shakes on skip sheathing will last pretty well (as historic structures have proven) as long as there is good ventilation underneath so the shakes can dry out well.  There is also historic precedent for slate roofs in these parts, mostly on churches, municipal buildings and the largest houses of the very wealthy, but I don't see much in the way of new slate roofs.  The first cost will be high (even if you have the skills to install it yourself, that's likely to be true), so you'd need a long term view; over 100 or more years, a slate roof might actually be very economical, but you're paying for the long life up front.  Not all buildings will have substantial enough framing for a slate roof, either.  Even so, I do occasionally dream of Arvon slates...

Be careful about insulating vent spaces under the roof deck of heated structures.  You'll want to preserve ventilation flow to prevent a hot roof deck, which will make ice.  While it is possible to insulate sufficiently in this climate to prevent a hot roof deck, it is difficult to do on existing buildings.  I could check the Army Corps of Engineers report from Fort Drum (I'll try to find the link and post it here), but it seems to me it requires something like R60, and it can be difficult to find enough room for that much insulation in an existing structure without major reno.  Many older houses have been renovated in the last few decades to convert what was formerly unheated attic into occupied space (typically, more kid bedrooms).  If done well, that can be fine.  If someone insulated between the rafters right against the roof deck, and didn't build a vented double roof when they did it, it will be no end of heartache until you can add some venting - ice dams galore will ensue.  Even 3/4" or 1" of vent space will make all the difference.

Fewer roof valleys will be better.  Snow will tend to wedge into valleys, rather than slide down.  But, my roof has 4 valleys and a shed dormer - it is what it is.  Shed extensions with flatter pitch than the roof above may also hang up snow which slides down from above.

Broad eave flashing on shingled roofs cant hurt, though I've seen plenty of roofs without eave flashing which were fine, too.  Sometimes, broad eave flashing signifies that someone was trying to compensate for a hot roof deck that made ice dams, but sometimes it just means that someone believed in overkill.

One way of dealing with heavy snow accumulations on a roof is to shovel (or scoop - the aforementioned Garant scoops are a lot nicer to drag up an extension ladder onto a commercial flat roof) the roof off two or three times each winter.  There are also roof rakes, which can - at least theoretically - be used to remove snow from a roof while standing on the ground.  I've seen, and used, multiple designs, but the pick of the litter, in my opinion, is the Avalanche brand.  I believe these are Canadian, but I don't remember for certain.  I have the 750 model, which is a bit sturdier than the base 500 model.  I've still had to mend mine here and there, but they do work better than most, and are reasonably durable.  Whatever the case, don't worry about getting the roof down to bare shingles; that's just a recipe for a torn up roof.  Aim to leave a few inches of snow and just focus on getting the worst of the weight off the roof.

Keep in mind typical snow depths on your roof when installing vents and chimneys.  If the penetrations are on the downwind side of a ridge, the snow can pile in deeply and cover up a sanitary vent.  Even a clothes dryer vent should exit well above ground level (4 or 5 feet up isn't crazy).  Direct vent gas appliances, as well.

If I think of any additional helpful hints, I'll add them to this thread, as well as the Army Corps report on insulation and ventilation of roof decks.  It's a gem!
1 week ago

Thekla McDaniels wrote:Thanks for the reference, Kevin.

My cistern is still waiting in line for its rehab turn.



You're welcome.  I, too, often make haste slowly on my projects.  Perhaps "methodical", but possibly I am just diffuse and easily distracted!

You might also find something useful in the Hot Mix Mortars website, which seems to be associated with Nigel Copsey, who is one of the foremost modern experts on hot lime mortars for restoration and preservation work:
https://www.hotmixedmortars.com/

They have a page with excerpts from Pliny regarding Roman masonry practice, generally:
https://www.hotmixedmortars.com/pdf/documents/The_Complete_Works_of_Gaius_Plinius_Secundus_Delphi.pdf?i=1
1 week ago

Kevin Olson wrote:
George Hauk gives several recipes in his book "The Aqueduct of Nemausus".



Hauk's description of "maltha" is cribbed (with attribution, in the foot notes) from Pliny the Elder:

"Maltha is prepared from freshly calcined lime, a lump of which is slaked in wine and then pounded together with pork fat and figs, both of which are softening agents. Maltha is the most adhesive of substances and grows harder than stone. Anything that is treated with it is first thoroughly rubbed with olive oil."
(https://www.loebclassics.com/display/pliny_elder-natural_history/1938/pb_LCL419.143.xml?readMode=recto)

Hauk gives no better clue as to the actual proportions used than does Pliny, however.

A bit late of a follow-up to the conversation, but I was reading Hauk and came across the relevant passage.
1 week ago

Brody Ekberg wrote:You sound like a fellow Yooper! I just saw recent pictures of wooden water mains being dug up in Republic. They looked just like what you described. Pretty interesting!

I suspect Ive seen some black locust, or at least a relative here and there. Are they scraggly, rough, thorny trees with bean pod looking things? Definitely not many of them around but Ive seen a handful of them like that around neighborhoods like you said.



Yeah, guilty as charged on being a Yooper!

Most of the locust I see are large shrubs or small trees, but there are a few in Ripley, across from the county garage which are proper tree sized.  That's a little micro-climate there - south facing slope, bares off early in the spring - so that might have helped them along.  There's one along the side of my brother's driveway, and it's maybe 8 feet tall and very spindly.  But, my brother plows with a bucket loader, and his neighbor up the hill plows with a skid steer, so I image it suffers some indignities in the course of snow removal!

They are thorny, with a compound leaf, white flowers in the spring and bean-like seed pods in the later summer or fall.  They are nitrogen fixers, good nectar source for bees and other pollinators, have edible seeds and very rot resistant wood.  My maternal grandfather told me "locust will last two years longer than stone" - not quite true, but it's very durable.  Locust thresholds and pegs (tree nails) were common uses, as well as fence posts.  Some established fence lines had a row of locust trees down the length; someone had used green locust fence posts, and the posts took root and grew.  Locally, it's classed as invasive, but Downstate it's native.  I have a sneaking hunch that as we continue to rebound from the last glacial maximum, they'll keep spreading northward into our neck of the woods, right up until the next ice age begins rather precipitously.  Though I am unlikely to be around to test my hypothesis!
So, here's tonight's update.

Despite an early morning rain (around 6AM), the pear sawfly larvae which were within range of the garden sprayer are kaput!

I spotted several immobile and dessicated - no twitching when prodded with the carbide scribe which lives in my shirt pocket (see attached photos).  I've also attached a photo of typical damage, if not particularly advanced.

So, it would seem that a couple of ounces of neem oil per gallon, sprayed rather heavily (in part due to a rickety old garden sprayer, with wonky spray nozzle and a leaky and perished o-ring which only sort-of seals the pump to the jug - greater pressure would lead to better atomization, but this was the maiden voyage for the season, and the o-ring will need replacement, but I digress...), is sufficient to dispatch sawfly larvae.

I may yet need to treat the upper branches of the tree, but I'll need to replace the o-ring and borrow an extension ladder from my sister to get up that high.

I would qualify this as a success.
1 week ago
As a point of reference, when one of the local highways was repaved some years ago, some utility services attended to at the same time, not least water mains and sewers.  They pulled out tamarack water mains which were, or at least appeared to be, untreated.  They'd been bored through, peeled, banded with iron straps, presumably to better resist the internal pressure, and the ends were coned (male on one end, female on the other) so that they could be connected together.  I believe these were still in use at the time of removal/replacement, and had been since roughly the 1920s.  A length or two ended up in one of the historical museums, if I recall correctly.  Maybe I can find the article about the tamarack water mains in the newspaper's archives (wish me luck!).

Tamarack was often used historically in ground contact situations - railroad cross ties, post foundations for structures, sill logs for cabins and saunas, stulls (support timbers) in the mines, etc.  It's not black locust, but it's pretty rot resistant.

That being said, any or all of your proposed treatments and installation methods should help to prolong the lives of the fence posts.

Around here, there are very few large tamaracks which survived the mining era, and I don't know if the same is also true over by Iron River, but I have seen some big tamaracks in the swamps over by Stevenson and Carney - easy to spot in the fall when the needles turn, even at a full gallop, so to speak.  Smaller trees, good for fence posts, are common here, though.

And, speaking of black locust, we do have some around here, though I suspect we're at the ragged northern edge of the range.  Most of them seem to be on the fringes of residential neighborhoods, or perhaps that's just where they are most noticeable or I can plainly see them.  But, I don't much notice them out in the woods.  Still, locust would be hard to beat, if available.

Phil Stevens wrote:I get these from time to time. Never enough to drag out the heavy artillery, but if I did feel the need to intervene I would probably try soap, and then maybe dilute wood vinegar. They are annoying and nothing seems to want to eat them.



Phil -

I'll keep those in reserve, if the neem oil seems ineffective.

Thanks for the alternatives.

Kevin
1 week ago

Syd Smith wrote:I could be wrong and haven't battled these myself (yet), but I think kaolin/surround is effective against them?



That seems likely, since "road dust" was mentioned in one of the state ag extension services bullletins, along with wood ash.  Probably any dessicant would work, but I'll be jiggered if I can figure out how to nicely dust the whole tree, or even some substantial portion thereof.  There's probably a way, but I haven't thought of what it might be.

I did spray almost 1 gallon (a scant 4 liters) of neem oil, mixed about 2 fluid ounces of cold pressed neem oil to the gallon of hot tap water, through the pump-up garden sprayer.  I got as high as I could reach, all around the tree, saturating the leaf surfaces and giving some special love and attention to any larvae I saw.  This is about the same concentration I used on the gypsy moth chrysalises and caterpillars, as best I recall.  I wasn't able to reach the top of the tree, but the vast preponderance of sawfly larvae and damage they'd already caused was on the lower leaves, as best as I could see.

Now we wait...
1 week ago