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Summary
part 2 of a 2 part podcast
Sleaze and anti-sleaze
Paul continues the discussion accompanied by Samantha.
Paul compares Boot camp with homesteading, especially taking on a homestead for the first time. Rather than spending over 100 hours a week and not getting all your projects done, in boot camp you do 40 hours, and gain spoons rather than using a ton. Boot camp has a powerful anti-sleaze effect.
Setting up a homestead from scratch or taking over a non functional property creates a lot of self-imposed obligation which sucks spoons, much like sleaze does.
Samantha says permies is a community of individuals. There's still room for independence but also space for collaboration.
Paul says that the sleaze of people working and gaming the system is a problem in the USA as everyone wants to tell people what to do and how to advance. However with a humble home and a large garden you can step back from all that. Boot camp is a powerful anti-sleaze force - no need for a phone or a car or other things which are increasingly sleazy.
Paul wants to get the gardening gardeners program fully sorted out, so that people setting up a homestead for example could run such a scheme and reduce their obligations and increase their spoons. Without a good, proven framework it's risky. As Samantha comments this is what's great about SKIP, people can demonstrate their abilities and homesteaders can see that.
Paul relates something of Mike Oehler's issues with interns: he had 100 interns and they were all no good. Paul suspects that the indoctrination that you have to be a fierce independent was part of the issue.
Paul finishes by reflecting on the last 20 years running permies.
Relevant Threads
Spoon theory - Wikipedia
Podcast 717 - Gardening Gardeners - Part 1,
Part 2
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