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Hi everyone,

Just wondering if pineapple and sesame oil have alkloids in it?

Thanks in advance

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Lucia, is there a particular class of alkaloid you are concerned about? And for what reason? I'm asking because I don't know exactly how to answer you. Various alkaloids are common in plants, including food plants. In addition, there is not a common consensus as to what should be classified as an alkaloid, and what is not. Therefore it is difficult to say with certainty whether or not a particular food contains alkaloids.

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Hi Su

Thanks for your reply. I am allergic to night shades (not sure which alkaloids but definitely its from alkaloids)
and also anthocyanins. I cannot eat any purple veggies or fruits due to hives and throat swelling.

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Nightshade family contains nicotine, solanine (potatoes) and capsaicin as the main alkaloids.
Anthocyanins are in many foods, but don't seem to be in pineapple.
People often breed dark purple veggies, these will be high in anthocyanins.

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Hi Jondo

Yes that's correct re night shades. I was told that the sweet potatoes are ok. Is that true? How about the white tea,
green tea or enchinancea tea? Do all of them have alkaloids?

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Alkaloids

As you can see, there are many different alkaloids. It might be wise to narrow the list of what is okay for you, and what to avoid.

Solanaceae

They do talk about the specific alkaloids in Solanaceae. In addition to the ones Jondo mentioned, there are also tropanes.

Sesame oil

I don't know of alkaloids in sesame oil, but they mention a number of acids. It could be that sesame oil lacks any.

pineapple

The allergen in question is bromelain, where it comes to pineapple, which is a mixture of proteolytic enzymes. I know that some people have a hard time with it, or are outright allergic, but it is not an alkaloid as far as I know.

Again, not all alkaloids are created equal. Most people don't have a problem with solanine, and capsaicin is the agent in peppers that makes them hot, nicotine is still popular as a mental stimulant, and tropanes, I believe, are the toxic component of belladonna, also a nighshade.

How were you able to narrow your sensitivity to anthocyanins? I have never heard of such a thing. So you can't eat blueberries? No blueberry pie? How do you survive?

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Sweet potato

Sweet potato, by the way, is fine for any with solanaceae sensitivities as they aren't in any way related. Sweet potatoes are related to morning glory and bindweed. Just look at the flowers.

As I have shown, you can look on wikipedia. If there are significant or problematic levels/types of alkaloids or other substances, they often merit their own sub-heading.

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I think every plant have alkaloid. There are different types of alkaloid.
1)Neuroactive like caffeine, nicotine, capsaicin
2)Hormone/Enzyme Modifiers
3)Antioxidant

The nightshade/tomato family and carrot/hemlock family have alot of alkaloid. The bean family isn't too far behind. Most seeds (nuts/grain/beans/etc) have alkaloids in them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_psychoactive_plants

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Alkaloids

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Hi Chris

Thanks for reply. I had a biopsy of my own tissues a few years ago by specialist
in hospital and was told that I have alkaloid but I wasn't sure which types of alkaloids.
I will ask my specialist for a specific info re alkaloids and will post here in the
near future.

Lucia Cotto

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Where did the alkaloid bio-accumulate and what damages where they doing to that specific tissue/organ. Most alkaloids are actually good for us and we need them.

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Hi S Bengi

Thanks for the information re two links. Interesting..
I feel that I couldn't eat anything. What can I eat?

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You can eat, without alkaloid you would die, your brain would stop working, your organs would shut down. So it isn't a blanket statement that you have to do without alkaloid. Similarly without Sodium/salt in our body we would die, but too much salt has been linked to certain sickness.

If it was me I would change my diet to the following

1 gallon of water per day
8 hrs of sleep
yoga/etc

Fermented grains/beans/vegetables/fruits.
Water kefir for fruits, koji for grains and beans, tempeh for beans, and nut meat
Milk kefir for milk.

I would also listen to my body and avoid purple cabbage, purple greens and such.

I would try my best to eat as healthy as possible and do the things that I need to have a healthy body (water, sleep, stress management, balance diet, exercise), to help it when something else falls apart as we all age.

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Hi again,

I cannot find info re hemp oil and enchinacea tea whether if they have alkoloids in it?
Can you help with that please?

Thanks in advance,

Chris Kott

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Hi Lucia,

I have to echo S Bengi's observation. You cannot do without alkaloids. Without them, your body will cease to function and you will die.

Instead of generalising until the lack of specificity renders the conversation pointless, please find out the specific alkaloids to which you have a sensitivity.

Your statement is akin to saying that one is allergic to proteins. One can be allergic to specific proteins, but I don't think it's possible to be allergic to all proteins.

But really, no blueberries? No blueberry pie, ever? No *gasp* huckleberry pie?

I feel your pain. I have an allergy to birch pollen, to some related plants, and to some members of the rose family. I can no longer eat stone fruit. I used to love peaches, and eat bing cherries and yellow plums on car rides. My favourite doughnut, a polish pastry called a pącek, was a plum-butter-filled delight, and now I wake up drooling from dreams of a dessert I can never again enjoy.

I hope you find out what specific alkaloid(s) you're sensitive to, and that its not impossible to avoid them. Keepbus posted, and good luck.

-CK

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