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Do we really need electric pumps to make aerobic compost tea

 
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Thank you for being open to prosecutorial inquisition.

What cultures do you recommend for controlling mildew?

How do  you identify the microbes you are working with, or do you infer their presence through a chain of consumption from the original food source. Bottom line: How can I be sure I'm para-trooping in allies.

How much of the gas infusion recommended for "Boogie Brew" is hot air? - in other words do we really need to invest in electric pumps and huge rain barrels fitted with perforated PVC piping? If so, Is there a natural alternative

I want to use a pressure pump to spray fungi / microbe corpses onto foliage. Why should I prefer living cultures?

 
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Hi Chris it’s my pleasure.  

What cultures do you recommend for controlling mildew?



I am not aware of any cultures in this area. The Neem plant has a good reputation for dealing with this.  I do know there are one or two non-organic certified chemicals that are supposed to work (got a feeling I’ll be coming back to this question).  I also know that UV light breaks down mildew and cultural methods such as breaking down old leaves can help (I have a digester peparation in book).

There is a biodynamics based preparation if you want to bend your reality – BD 508. I put that one in the appendix because I didn’t want to alienate anyone. Trouble with Steiner is that a lot of his material is just too much, but now and again he touches on something that makes you take a second look. In this instance he is talking about ‘too much Moon energy’ oh but hang I just said UV light can help there is kind of a connection.

How do  you identify the microbes you are working with, or do you infer their presence through a chain of consumption from the original food source. Bottom line: How can I be sure I'm para-trooping in allies.



YouTube and microscope. Only around 1% of microorganisms have been identified. Garbage in / garbage out policy. Make sure your compost is properly made and matured. Most aerobic microorganisms are beneficial so that is a good reason for keeping up the oxygen.

How much of the gas infusion recommended for "Boogie Brew" is hot air? - in other words do we really need to invest in electric pumps and huge rain barrels fitted with perforated PVC piping? If so, Is there a natural alternative



You don’t have to take the technical root, it more a cultural thing, just stir it two-three times a day to get the oxygen in, or get a solar pump, or use oxygenated pond weed. It will be more traditional, it won’t smell as sweet but it will work.  I’d be less inclined to put it on my salad leaves prior to harvest. The bonus is that a power point is no longer needed. Just thought I'd chuck this in, have you heard about Monkey Shoulder (hint) whisky ?

I want to use a pressure pump to spray fungi / microbe corpses onto foliage. Why should I prefer living cultures?



Could I ask what the PSI is on your pump because over 29 PSI you will probably succeed with just having corpses.  I think it is just what effect you want. Your question is valid and the science is not well established in this area.  Corpses will still create a flurry of biological activity, it still contains nutrients and the living soil organisms / plants can still use the decomposed remains at some point.  Plant roots are known to manipulate microorganisms, switching off secretions of carbon etc to kill them to absorb their nutrients or for subtler reasons (The plant secretes large amounts of nutrients to the soil around in interactions that must be significant to justify such an expense.) When its alive it can be an active agent interacting with your plant in a positive way and personally speaking I feel kind of obliged to encourage the things I have developed towards more life.

I hope you have found my answers useful and you don’t feel the need to apply the thumb screws.
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eric fisher wrote:Trouble with Steiner is that a lot of his material is just too much, but now and again he touches on something that makes you take a second look. In this instance he is talking about ‘too much Moon energy’ oh but hang I just said UV light can help there is kind of a connection.


Steiner is said to have got his start in Mystery School teachings from a gardener. I suspect there is deep truth there occult-ed by smoke and mirrors to mislead idiots.
Actually, I can't help wondering if the Electric Universe theory purported by The Thunderbolts Project is currently valid in that the crystalline structures that house microbes (in gut and ground)  resonate with energies linking the heavenly bodies. ::shrug:: if I can't measure it I can't manage it.

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I hope you have found my answers useful and you don’t feel the need to apply the thumb screws.



Most assuredly, thank-you. I would not apply undue pressure to a fellow raising the standard for the White Rose!
 
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I seem to remember a reference to buttermilk in connection with powdery mildew...

Ah, here it is:
https://permies.com/t/74204/managing-powdery-mildew-thoughts-suggestions#617287
 
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