I have a question about logging. We have an 11 acre property that is 95% wooded (it is actually a property we have with a hunting cabin on it, not our regular home). We have gotten offers from logging companies to come in and remove some of the trees for a pretty good amount of money. It is a lot of red maple, tulip trees and oaks.
What kind of guidelines should we be thinking about in considering this. It is not something we have ever done before.
Be careful - I hate to say it but a lot of loggers are just plain crooks. If you have a sizable amount, the cost of a forestry professional will more than pay for itself. This is not a time to go cheap, because you will get back a lot more, often twice as much, with a forestry professional, than trying to deal with a buyer yourself.
Also, a forester can recommend the best way to go about improving your stand of trees, if you would like, for future value.
There be gold in them there trees - especially for the future.
in the early 70's our property was pulped..they were only supposed to take the aspen trees, nothing else..well they stole all of our hardwoods and left the woods a mess..40 years later it still has not recovered..
Starting on pg 500, Carla Emery covers land management and harvesting wood, so I'll relay her words to give you a good starting place.
"February is an awful time to be out scouting for wood. The wood is best gotten during the fine dry days of midsummer and early fall. Old timers say that if you fell the tree while the sap is still in the leaves, the trunk will be dryer and easier to cut."
Most of Carla's energy on this subject is in tree-planting and care, and then on how to chop down your own trees without killing yourself. She doesn't venture into the area of what to look for in a company, etc.
Like others have said, I would advise getting a forestry pro to come in and survey it before you speak with the loggers.
It takes up there generations to recover a forest that has been damaged. If you need, I can help connect you with foresters who will do a good job. What I do for a living is grow plantations and bring back permanent forests, so this is an area I know very well.
Drop me a private message if you wish some free help (I don't live in the USA anymore)
Thanks for that link by the way.
He said, that the company that he worked with ran on a very high set of internally imposed ethics. They would log the dead trees out first, then the ones that were dying, and leaving the best trees for last. Now this process was imposed in the 50's. By doing this he said, "the healthy trees could 'nurse' the younger sapplings being planted."
I was personally wowed by that statement. Keeping in mind up here in NW Montana, the risk of fire is very real to a forester. If they leave all of the prime timer standing and not cut it down right away (think: "bird in the hand"), then there is a huge risk to the next 5 year's production if a lightning strike was to take out their crop. But by doing the right thing by the land (pre-permaculture ethics) they would ensure that their sons and daughters taking over the company would have trees 40 years from now.
"All roads lead to permaculture." --Paul Wheaton
Based upon our experience we would add... Suggest viewing loggers previous work and discussing with his previous logging site owners.
Deeds Do The Talkin'!
Wilson Foedus wrote:He said, that the company that he worked with ran on a very high set of internally imposed ethics. They would log the dead trees out first, then the ones that were dying, and leaving the best trees for last. Now this process was imposed in the 50's. By doing this he said, "the healthy trees could 'nurse' the younger sapplings being planted."
This is totally true, we see it in our plantations. We encourage the wildlings (self seeded) and they are always so much better than those we planted, in growth and quality. Sometimes we get so many we have to go through removing some.
Taking a pasture to forest is a challenge and expensive, or takes a very long time. Maintaining a forest, is a piece of cake, and about 5 times more profitable than grazing animals on the same land.
http://hines.blogspot.com/2012/02/tri-state-forestry-conference-kicks-off.html <--- MORE DETAILS
Other states may have similar get togethers which could help those interested in "Logging the Land"
The 2012 Tri-State Forest Stewardship Conference is slated for Saturday, March 10 at the Sinsinawa Mound Center, Sinsinawa, Wis., near Dubuque, Iowa.
According to Jay Hayek, University of Illinois extension forester, the conference, which is in its 18th year, draws 550 woodland landowners from Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.
"It has become one of the largest private woodland owner conferences in the nation," Hayek says. "More than 25 presentations will cover a wide range of forestry and wildlife topics including timber marketing in today's economy, woodland prescribed fire, forestry herbicides, timber harvesting, safe handling and processing of wild game, introductory beekeeping, common tree diseases and pests and how to treat them, maple syrup production for the beginner, and crop tree release techniques to maximize tree growth.
A full list of topics and registration materials are posted online at www.forestry.iastate.edu. http://www.extension.iastate.edu/forestry/tri_state/tristate_2012/forms/tri-state_talks.pdf
Participants will have the opportunity to interact with state and federal forest managers, to see the most recent advances in forestry technology at the vendor's fair.
"This year, there will be a two-hour chain-saw safety and maintenance discussion taught by STIHL Safety Instructors and a two-hour estate planning workshop," Hayek adds. "Enrollment for both the chain-saw safety and the estate planning workshop will be limited to the first 50 individuals. We will also be offering a two-hour session on forest management and stream water quality, which will highlight new research and restoration techniques."
The adult registration fee is $50 per person. The fee includes a continental breakfast, buffet luncheon, refreshments, resource packet and handouts. The deadline to mail registrations is March 1. Advance registration is required.
For more information, contact Jay Hayek at 217-244-0534 or send email email@example.com.
The conference is presented in partnership with the Cooperative Extension Services at Iowa State University and University of Illinois; the Department of Natural Resources from each of the three states; the Department of Natural Resource Ecology and Management at Iowa State University; and the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Sciences at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
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