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I am an old(er) and experienced gardener and a professional grower.  But I am learning From this site.  Today I planted a new apple tree and because of what I have learned here I planted it in the crook of roots of a much long gone fir tree. My attempt a hugelkulture!  The roots should continue to rot nicely and the young tree will benefit.  

Thanks y’all!

( I still think some of those stuff is a bit off the wall....)😎
 
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Hey Janet, I hear you. As a guy with some mileage, some things here I find eyebrow raising. But freedom of thought is the essence of creative endeavours. If it does no harm, let it slide.

I don't find that there is any expectation of swallowing the permie philosophy whole. I certainly don't, even though there are a lot of intersecting points with what I've been doing for a long time. Wisdom on the ground is what counts -- show me a better way, show me the results, and I'll try it. Always more to learn, even from hippies.

What strikes me is that, when I look back at the stories of how my great-grandparents built homesteads and ultimately thrived in this harsh country, I find a lot of surprising parallels. They brought old country skills and techniques with them, which were overtaken by modernism. It's encoded in a different language. You have to translate thoughtfully to realize that their technologies were not dissimilar. In some senses, we're trying to return to our roots.

My 2 cents.
 
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While I am certainly an old hippie...really..I find some of what is offered here hard to digest. I cannot for instance figure out the value of Humanure!  But as you say...freedom of thought does lead to creativity...and I laugh and do let er go

I do be.ieve as you say that we are re exploring some of the techniques hat our predecessors found valuable and that is greAt!  I do however believe that progress should also be valued for what it can give us. So a  comfortable blend is what I seek.  I have been back to the basics without the luxury of power and or sanitation and actually...I like both.  

I don’t think it’s necessary to destroy where we live to accomplish a great life..but I also like some polyester clothing!

Each to his own...I enjoy the site..have leArned a few things and hope I can pass on what I know to the next folks growing their garden or homesteading. And I do see much value in Yahtzee over Facebook!

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Janet Reed wrote:I don’t think it’s necessary to destroy where we live to accomplish a great life..but I also like some polyester clothing!


Janet, I think we are very much on the same page.

I'm trying to figure out how to rebalance the whole world in a rational, reasonable way -- keeping things that are measurably progress, and pushing back on things that are measurably destructive without long-term value.

I can only start with myself, with the power in my own hands. It's a long and important journey, with no "big win" to be had. My plan is to plant seeds as I walk.

Cheers,
-Doug

BTW, I was kidding about the hippy thing. I know a few from Salt Spring Island. I come from big oil country; they come from big smoke country. Or so we gently razz each other.
 
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