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How have you integrated dwarf mulberries in your projects ?

 
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Hello everyone,

I'm planning to add a couple of dwarf mulberries to one of the guilds I'm composing. Main tree in the guild is already a Walnut (Junglans regia).  
Given the reduced space it is available around the walnut, the option of add mulberries of the common varieties(one or two) to the guild, it seems not to fit well to the composition. So, I thought to add some dwarf variety of mulberry (I'm thinking on "Mojo Berry", Morus rotundifolia) which will span a bit less than any other mulberry. And just to note that I want to plant it directly on the ground, being part of the guild. My intention is not to cultivate it on pots.

I have some doubts about how to treat this variety into the guild. As far as I learn from internet, it seems it should be treated as a small tree, but it sounds also valid to me to treat it as a shrub or even as a vine ? (this last I mention is because I found that in some places recommend to train it on espaliers or similar). Anyway I have not found many resources talking about this variety, but the common varieties. I've also researched these forums but have not found so much information about dwarf ones than about common ones.

So, I would like to know from those of you that have incorporated dwarf mulberries to your permaculture projects, in order to hear your ideas, experiences, fails and successes!

I thank you in advance for your responses.

Greetings, Jesús.
 
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I'm not sure how Mulberry will do beside a walnut. Pawpaw and Gooseberry can handle the chemicals walnuts produce.
 
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Thanks for your answer Ryan,

I was looking information about that here in permies and I found
https://permies.com/t/29432/Black-Mulberry-Black-Walnut#239566

..in summary:
- White Mulberry (Morus Alba) tolerates well junglone from Walnuts.
- Black Mulberry (Morus Nigra) tolerates well junglone from Walnuts.
- Red Mulberry (Morus Rubra) doesn't tolerate so well junglone from Walnuts. Although I found some other books that says the opposite.


So, based on that, I guess Morus rotundifolia (Dwarf mulberry) will behave in the same way that its bigger brothers...
 
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That is interesting information! I suppose it's worth a shot. If you are interested in learning more information about mullberries, one another forum I follow (www.growingfruit.org) has a member who made the website www.growingmulberry.org which is a great resource. I do not have any walnut trees but have ordered a dwarf Girardi and weeping mulberry for planting this spring. I intend to keep both pruned to a large "shrub" size.

If you REALLY want to dive into the science side of mullberries, check out this thread in particular https://growingfruit.org/t/two-species-of-morus-nigra-mulberry/9419?u=disc4tw
 
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