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Managing black locust in a small space?

 
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A tree that I believe to be a black locust volunteered near the back of my 1/4 acre urban yard. I let it go for a few years because I thought it was a different woody legume I had intentionally seeded (false indigo) before noticing that it was trending more tree than shrub, and making a correct ID (well, I'm about 80% sure I got the ID right this time). Now I'm trying to decide whether to kill it, or if it can be of use to me. Considerations:

  • It is pretty close to an apple tree, which I don't want it to shade out or compete for nutrients, but on the other hand it could be a good companion if it could fix nitrogen or help the apple in some other way.
  • It's right on the edge of the driveway, so other than the apple it's not competing with much else or getting in the way.
  • It's growing through our hog wire fence, so I'm not sure I want to let the trunk get super thick...? Or I guess it could be like those cool old trees that have grown around barbed wire. Right now the trunk is probably a little over 1 inch diameter.
  • Because it's a small urban lot, and I don't want it casting a bunch of shade, and it might be rude to let it drop a bunch of seeds into the storm drains, I'm confident I don't want to let it reach maturity.
  • Small urban lot, so I definitely don't want to deal with a ton of suckering, especially not far from the base. Suckers will just have to be removed, so they do me no good.


  • What do you all think? Keep it or not?

    From my non-expert searching, it sounds like the science isn't totally decided on whether non-nodulating legumes share nitrogen with other plants the way nodulating ones are believed to. But maybe if I engaged in a pollarding plan, the fine roots would periodically die back after the stems were cut, providing nutrients to the soil that way?

    Can I get anything useful out of this by pollarding it in a fairly small space? I don't know much about coppicing and pollarding so I can't tell how much wood I should expect or how thick/long it would be at harvest. I could use firewood, or garden stakes, or fencing materials. I don't have any cows to feed it to, nor do I want to bother with chop & drop when I can be dropping other plant mulches that don't have nasty thorns attached.

    Are there any other approaches other than pollarding to put this enthusiastic volunteer to work?
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    Black locust in the foreground right, with the wee baby apple visible to the left
     
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    Living mulch ... chop and drop.
    Even fruit trees get pruned heavily.
     
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    I just let things grow, but maybe that's just me. there are probably more trees cut down every day than are planted. the world can always use more trees.
    but I can understand the idea of managed urban landscapes. yeah when I lived in a suburb with 80'x120' lot my yard was a jungle that some people disliked  cuz like maybe I wasn't "keeping up with the joneses"
     
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    My neighborhood is pretty tolerant of unconventional yards, so I don't have to worry too much about looks. But on a small lot like this, I feel that everything needs to be pulling its weight. If I let the black locust get big, it's using up space and sun that I could be growing fruit or something with, so it needs to be offering something else instead. Even the things that aren't providing me direct benefits are still evaluated for usefulness—if I were prioritizing wildlife value, an oak or hackberry probably beats out locusts in my biome, so if I wanted the general benefits of a large tree, I'd probably plant one of those instead.
     
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