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Hi Everyone,

My name is Marcelo and I'm a farmer in Portugal. We have come across this patform where people draw the boundaries of their property and it created an online cadaster of their activities.
It also has a section where you can get some statistics for your land (elevation, change in rainfall, temperature change, etc.).

It looks nice and we ended up finding neighbors close to us and reaching out to them. We already exchanged some ideas for joint projects in the region.

I feel like the more we are the better the platform will get. So Jump in! We might be neighbors. See our link here:
https://restor.eco/map/site/quinta-da-matela-matela


Cheers,
Marcelo
 
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In the not far long run, this project might turn into a bigger threat than FB in people's lives. While we've been trying to run away from the control mechanism, why should we pinpoint our locations?
 
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There are people here in my province trying to form a local permaculture network. They share the same concern about showing too much and become targets for the powers that be. Personally, I think that as long as we are not doing anything illegal that should not be a concern.
As it is now, it might be a dozen people doing permaculture next door without us knowing. I would have loved to learn experiences from people that tried dryland restoration gardening in my zone before I started.
 
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I understand concerns related to privacy. But I try to look at the greater picture.

For large scale restoration to work, we need young and new farmers taking in land work and scale it up. Youth are the biggest contribuors to increase movement from the rurala reas to cities. We need promote rural development and attracting youth is key. Additionally, we need to organize ourselves. We need to know who our neighbors are, connect with them and joi forces to change behaviour and policy towards more sustainable food systems.

I love living off-grid, but better than that is to live in a grid of connected communities commited to a better world. Technilogy will be part of it. It already is. We're online!

We're luck to live in coutries were privare property is a given right. We don;t need to omit our boundaries to ensure we hold the title of our land. A lot of these fears regarding access to properties are inherited from old land grabbers foghting off inidgenous communities they approperiated the land from. We don't need that anymore - there are cameras, law enforcement... take advange of technology to look at the good side of it. What can it do for our communities.

A lof of rural life can make people feel lonely, disconnected, abandoned at times. Allowing for such platform to connect people should be celebrated.

Just my opinion.
 
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As in any other social network, you may join if you want, but you don't have to.
With every convenience we are losing freedom, but absolute freedom is absolutely inconvenient. Just choose the point of freedom you are comfortable with.
 
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This is interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oizhVJstxC4
 
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Thanks for posting this site, as I hadn't heard about it yet! Hopefully, I would've discovered it via TED talks sooner or later, but much later than your post!

As there is both private and public functions, I don't see much of a threat to privacy, any more than there are already numerous threats to it from other sources. I don't use FB, so no issue there, but I'm unsure of what the other threats are, other than perhaps FB shares one's data no matter how you mark it?

At this time, if "the government" wants more data on what I'm doing, they just send a drone overhead ... I have little control over that. That's one way in that my property taxes keep going up. I don't try to hide from them, but I do all kinds of things to legally reduce taxes, and I think the tactics on both sides are both fair and realistic.

If the IRS really wants my land, they're going to take it. If a highway needs to come through, I'll be eminent-domained out of existence. In these scenarios, I just do my best to "prepare" for them in some way ... a TinyHome that I can drive off in does wonders to prep for many such weird scenarios, and not so weird ones like wildfire.

To get back to Marcelo's post ... it's going to take more reading/rummaging to figure out what use RESTOR could be to my own property efforts, and perhaps how I can tie PC into it. It looks interesting from a "tools" perspective ... right now I use Google Earth tools for that ... Is RESTOR better in some way?

Do I post my PC planning for my site, when I have that done? Or, is this for restoration efforts only that might encompass my site? If I post to RESTOR, can other PC folks more easily find me, if they care to, and I've somehow indicated PC-ness to them? This might boost PC locality, as in, who is doing it in my little region of the world.

"Questions ... questions needing answers ..."
 
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