posted 3 years ago
Hi,
Ok so first off, this started off after I found out how much a few truck loads of dirt would cost me, which I wanted to use to level parts of my yard out a bit. Then it turned into a well, it'd be nice to have a cellar and now is somewhere between that and "reliving childhood project" where we dug a hole down then tunneled about 6 ft (insanely dangerous in retrospect as we didnt use supports or anything). This is a fun-when-I-have-time project that doesnt have a "must-be-done-in-X-mos" time frame, could be years - just when i have time and feel like it. So in short, not a I am making a house to live in forever project, half fun half see-what-happens.
That said, it would be nice if it worked out and wasnt a death trap so I'd like to do it right. While I am not looking to spend much money on this, if it looks like its going somewhere then I might put a bit of money into it (like for cement?). First a bit of background i guess:
I am in the NC pediment so we have red clay up top and some sort of yellow-orange clay once you go down 7ft or so. It has some interesting properties, not the easiest to dig through (by hand) but while it mixes together when well like clay it dries into something more brittle, and drains pretty fast for clay - its like clay mixed with sandstone? (I am sure thats not it but it does have those properties). I will try to post some videos later if that would help.
My yard slopes, not super steep but probably about 6 feet drop over a distance of maybe 100ft?
I am no engineer but it would be nice if it could be to code(ish?)
The brittle clay i was refering to *seems* like it would make good CEB, from what I have read you shouldnt use just clay and sand should be mixed in but what if the clay was already kinda sandy? From what I understand plain CEB should not touch the ground but if it was mixed with a bit of Portland cement then maybe?
I have access to quite a bit of untreated wood (2x4s mostly) thanks to some of the housing divisions around (ugh, but hey, they are there so have had huge success dumpster diving for wood) so was thinking about using those as *temporary* supports?
I have actually started the hole at the end of my yard, bottom of the hill, about 9 feet down and started (like 1ft) digging horizontally, and have stopped until i get some clarity on temp supports then more permanent options.
For the tunnel, what I was thinking was building supports so that i, in effect, am never working with unsupported ground over my head so would dig a foot or two then support it and so on. Obviously untreated, salvaged 2x4s wont last long which is where I was wondering how to go. Engineering question. If i make supports, do they literally have to contact with the ground or if i have a tunnel in a tunnel, like a 5ft wide 7ft tall tunnel dug, with a 4.5x6.5 wooden tunnel in that would that protect me if there was some sort of collapse? Pretty much every mine shaft i see has supports that are up against the ground/sides of the tunnel. The reason i ask is if I built a tunnel in a tunnel, then put cement and rebar (not sure how I'd get the rebar in there) would 6 inches of wall/ceiling be safe? For getting the cement in there (keep in mind, I am fine with years and literally going a foot or two a week - fun project, no rush) I was working out how to either "blow" cement in as i go, every few feet or literally put some pipes from the surface down to the space between the earth and the wood tunnel then pouring cement in (seems to have kinda worked for Colin Furze, minus the hundreds of thousands of dollars he likely had).
Another cooler thought was to make a CEB tunnel (in the tunnel) then fill in with cement... or is portland cement with clay an option?
Anyway, I have started reading some other posts and about wofati which are interesting but the vast majority are about excavating the entire area, then building a structure, then covering it in dirt which is just not what I am out to do.
Thanks in advance.