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Newbie needs Pacific NW hugelkultur advice on symphylans

 
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Pac NW + Hugelcultur = Symphylans?

I asked this at the bottom of another posting but I want to get more eyes on this question before I go forward with a hugelkultur. I'm excited about the idea of hugeltultur but have read that symphylans can reach epidemic proportions in the Pacific NW if the right conditions arise. The book that referenced this is the Growing Vegetables West of the Cascades but he wasn't talking about hugelkultur in specific... Anybody in the Pac NW have issues with symphylans? Am I crazy to worry about them? Thanks everyone!

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I haven't had any problems. You can take preventative measures by planting a polyculture which supposedly keeps their number in check. But you were going to do that anyway, right?
 
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Helen and I talk about that in one of the podcasts. We even open that very book to that very page. I can't remember which podcast.

The #1 thing: don't chip your wood. Use logs and branches.

#2: wait. The bug predators will show up pretty fast.


 
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that book gets treated as gospel by a lot of folks. I haven't found the many dire warnings contained therein to be justified in practice. Steve Solomon found an effective way to grow vegetables, but he's way off base when he claims it as the only way.
 
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Thanks for all of the informative, speedy replies! @Paul, I'll take a listen to some of your podcasts. I appreciate the info to not chip the wood; my inclination was to put it in whole.

@Tel, I agree; there are limitless ways to grow!

And @Patrick, yes, there will be many different types and families of vegetables planted! I'm new to the idea of a permaculture polyculture but have read a bit on here about it. Do you know anyone in Portland who's knowledgeable about this?

Thanks again all, I'll continue with the plan for my hugelkultur, which will involve excavating some clay, which will go into our RMH that we're planning! Cheers,

-joe
 
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