• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

cedar for paths- is this a mistake? What should I take into account?

 
Posts: 1947
Location: Southern New England, seaside, avg yearly rainfall 41.91 in, zone 6b
81
forest garden fungi trees books chicken bee
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
So cedar is rot resistant but not impervious. Superstorm Sandy sped up the demise of one side of our barn, and it was a good thing. Rotting timbers and beetle damage were revealed and it is fixed and good as new. Now I have some shorter and longer cedar boards that didn't make it into the remodel. I am also in the slow slow process of turning our meadow into garden beds/forest garden. I have been experimenting to good effect with using cardboard boxes from our food co-op's dumpster for pathways, and looking at the pile of cedar board waste I am thinking of using it for paths as well.

Pros- uses a waste product, easily seen and followed, allelopathic effects of cedar may inhibit weeds, will eventually break down

Cons- splinters?, they are stained on one side, possible allelopathic effects on surrounding beds?

Has anyone used boards for pathways? Would anyone use cedar boards with some (old old) stain on them for paths? Any problems or benefits I didn't think of? Anything better to do with cedar boards that are not good for construction any longer?
 
pollinator
Posts: 1701
Location: southern Illinois, USA
294
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I've used heavy planks for pathways before, these were "2X6"s and just stayed in place till they composted from the bottom up. I'd beware of thinner or wider planks curling up either lengthwise or crosswise making walking on them difficult. But why not cut them up for the woodstove, unless you don't have one?
 
Posts: 23
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I use cedar branches and slash for my driveway, to keep traction in the rainy season. It works good, but its not a permanent solution. If your cedar boards are heavy on heart wood, they will stay on the ground for a good ten years and work for you. They might split, but they'll still be okay for walking on. Any allelopathic effect will go away in the first year or so, and as for pollution from the stain, well, I'm sure you can think of other forms of pollution present on your property. You have stain on your porch, right? But the garden down-hill from there seems to be doing okay. (assuming you have a porch. I'm sure some people do.)

Regarding allelopathy, cedar is demonized a lot on these boards, but chemical warfare is very very common in the vegetable kingdom and can't really be avoided. I would feel worse about erosion along a path than I did about putting cedar wood down on it.

But putting them on the ground might not be the highest and best use for the boards. If you wanted to make a chicken coup, they would probably be functional. If you like snaring rabbits, you could use them as part of an artificial warren.

Splinters? If you are walking around barefoot you will get stuck with something eventually.
 
Matu Collins
Posts: 1947
Location: Southern New England, seaside, avg yearly rainfall 41.91 in, zone 6b
81
forest garden fungi trees books chicken bee
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
If the barn is a decade older or more, is there still allelopathicity? Does it degrade on the side of a building or only as the wood rots? Well, it rots on the side of the building eventually...
 
What kind of corn soldier are you? And don't say "kernel" - that's only for this tiny ad:
A rocket mass heater heats your home with one tenth the wood of a conventional wood stove
http://woodheat.net
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic