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Hello got few ideas on designing a small around 30-50 square meter house out tires , as this would be my first build , and don't really have any experience building out of tires and want to understand what works and what doesn't , so need your guys help and expertise

Basically got three ideas , tho I'm open for suggestions or a completely new idea :
I hope pictures are pretty self explanatory , what do you guys think and is it doable ?
what weak and strong point for each ?

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idea for small earthship house made from tires
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I have played with these a fare bit and many will tell you not to, but if that is what you have I encourage you.
Cons;
- claimed outgassing
- hard work filling and pounding
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Pros;
- waste resource
- great if you have loose soil around
- or rubble
- can work at your own pace
- weather can help you.

Techniques I have used;
- I build columns of equal sized tyres, same brand and model.
- I screw them together with hex headed roof screws at each level
- the inherent shape with soil behind will push each column together
- rubble does not need pounding
- loose soil can be poured in and rainfall will settle the earth
- I have used waste beer bottles and capped each column with clay.
- steel bars with a hook at the bottom can be put in to hold the rod down
Questions;
- what is the elevated concrete slab for? Sleeping deck?
- where are you located, I can study weather patterns and see if any problemns will arise.
 
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John C Daley wrote:I have plated with tores a fare bit nd many will tell you not to, but if that is what you have I encourage you.
Cons;
- claimed outgassing
- hard work filling and pounding
-
Pros;
- waste resource
- great if you have loose soil around
- or rubble
- can work at your own pace
- weather can help you.

Techniques I have used;
- I build columns of equal sized tyres, same brand and model.
- I screw them together with hex headed roof screws at each level
- the inherent shape with soil behind will push each column together
- rubble does not need pounding
- loose soil can be poured in and rainfall will settle the earth
- I have used waste beer bottles and capped each column with clay.
- steel bars with a hook at the bottom can be put in to hold the rod down
Questions;
- what is the elevated concrete slab for? Sleeping deck?
- where are you located, I can study weather patterns and see if any problemns will arise.




For outgassing i was thinking of plastering with cement to have strong bonds and smooth surface .
I was checking some forums and videos out , saw some people cutting top of the sidewall for easier filling and pounding , but i not sure about it as it seems to weaken the structure but who knows ?

Do you have some pic/video examples of just some drawing how exactly its supposed to look like  the columns and hex screws idea ?

The elevated slab would be for sleeping deck or storage
Plus got another 4th idea were the slab is pictured maybe i can build a top of my old concrete root cellar , just on the concrete itself or maybe earth layer in between and another slab or a new slab on top o concrete cellar .
im in baltic region (europe) Lithuania
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idea for small earthship house with elevated sleeping slab
 
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Lordas, you will find there is no need to "quote" my notes it just takes up more bandwidth with the servers.
I have no photos of the screwing technique.
It is simple, as the tyres are  stacked one screw is installed at each contact point of the tyres.
I have heard of the method of removing the side of the tyre and I will try it on my next project, I believe it has merit.

I have limited contact with people from Lithuania, I wish you well.
 
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so are you going for example n0 1 or no 2 ?  

in no1 example maybe even armature stacks like they put in columns or just few pieces of armature
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# 1 is what I have found works well.
Because tres have different wall heights # 2 is hard to create.
Why are you thinking of a wooden wall?
Is light going to come from the roof?
 
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hm interesting doesn't it loose structural integrity like so ? and do you add any vertical armature for extra support ? , i thought the 2nd example is what i mainly saw people do and because it provides stability and more structural integrity  ?
i was just thinking of wooden wall because of the windows have no idea besides maybe roof how else to incorporate them into tires
 
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In my first notes I speak of a hooked rod extending through the tyre stack to enable the roof beams to be attached.
I dont believe there is a sufficient improvement in stability of the layered system to warrant dealing with the inconsistent tyre heights.
Also since soil is being pushed up on the outside as a berm, pressure will be exerted onto the columns adjacent, each of which is held in place by being screwed to each other.
 
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Windows are difficult to install, and your idea of that wooden wall is good.
A roof vent or skylight may also assist.
And a glass panelled door also is an idea.
 
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i wonder if there is a way to count how many tires would you need , especially for round buildings or so ?
 
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That depends on the size of tires you have best access to. Measure a few average tires, diameter and width, and you can use that as a rough guide to how many you need for a given amount of wall surface. I would take the average tire diameter and add that to house interior length and width (or interior diameter) to get the length of wall you need to cover.
 
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I just had an arrangement with a tyre shop and took all he had.
Then I started to match each tyre type and size and just kept going until I had finished.
 
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John C Daley , i wish you would make and post some of the drawing for your tested processes, how you connect and build structures out of tires at it would be much easier to understand and imagine fron pictogram than just text .
At the same time i do wonder is it better to dig a hole in the ground and just build tires in there or cover the tires with dirt that are build at the top of the flat land ?
 
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As im gathering tires , got another conundrum , were would be the most optimal place to build this project .
At first i had idea next to the root celar to the right of it , but now as i noticed that there is some even tho not not a big but still some sloping going towards the north side , now kinda leaning towards the south west were the garden land corner is .
Any input would be welcome on this decision
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