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Hello, I love this sight.  I've decided to go completely organic in caring for my lawn but I need some guidance as far as the order in which I should apply the different products I have.  I've purchased Ringer fertilizer, Milky spore for grubs, a granule product for mole/vole/rabbit control made mostly of Castor oil, and a mosquito control made mostly of garlic oil.  I'm just not sure if it makes a difference the order in which I apply these products and how much time I should wait in between the application of each of the different products.  Thanks for any help you can give me.
 
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I've only used the ringer fertilizer myself.  I think it won't compete with the other stuff.

And the milky spore stuff probably won't compete either.

This is the first I've heard of the other two products.
 
                                                
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i just found this site and love it  i want to go organic too  to start where do i get ringer fertilizer  i live in NJ
 
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I'm not sure if dirtworks.net (new england) carries it. 

I do know that groworganic.com carries it - out in california.  The shipping could be brutal.

You might let your fingers do the walking:  call some local hardware stores. 

Home Depot carried it last year, but this year they seem to have replaced it all with "Scotts Organic".  The ingredients sound the same.  I haven't tried it yet.
 
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Do it Best allows you to order online and ship to store for free. 

http://doitbest.com/Lawn+fertilizer+and+rose+and+garden+fertilizer-Woodstream-model-9325-doitbest-sku-734217.dib

I'm considering it in lieu of Scott's Organic Choice...still deciding though.

-Jeremy
 
                                                
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thank you for the info
 
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Jeremy_IL wrote:
Do it Best allows you to order online and ship to store for free. 

http://doitbest.com/Lawn+fertilizer+and+rose+and+garden+fertilizer-Woodstream-model-9325-doitbest-sku-734217.dib

I'm considering it in lieu of Scott's Organic Choice...still deciding though.

-Jeremy


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dirtworks wrote:
DIRT WORKS
1195 Dog Team Road
New Haven, Vt 05472-4000
Ph: 1.802.385.1064



I see you've moved!  I'm assuming the above address is the correct one, and the one in your signature is the old address...  So does Dirt Works carry Ringer?

-Jeremy
 
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Welp,
  Don't know the fascination with ringer fertilizer but, we sell lots of fertilizer that's organic and as good or better.
Our newest line is from organica (http://www.dirtworks.net/Organica-Lawn-Fertilizer.html)and it contains Mycorrhizae and other beneficial soil conditioners not found in conventional fertilizer even in organic fertilizer for the most part.  One great thing about that is that you can get a lot more coverage from a lighter weight bag and save a bundle on shipping.
  Add some humates (http://www.dirtworks.net/Humates.html)and you're really going to get a boost in microbial soil activity and over time you'll find you can use fewer and fewer inputs to maintain a health lawn and garden because the soil itself will start to make what it needs.  Think about it.  No one fertilizes the rain forest and it does pretty well on it's own, except when we destroy it with fire and air pollution!
 
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dirtworks wrote:
Welp,
  Don't know the fascination with ringer fertilizer but, we sell lots of fertilizer that's organic and as good or better.
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Think about it.  No one fertilizes the rain forest and it does pretty well on it's own, except when we destroy it with fire and air pollution!


Eh, the fascination is that Señor Wheaton recommends the stuff, and is slightly more accessable than your many equally as good if not better materials (if one lives nearby or can handle the shipping).  I know if I lived by I'd be checking out your stock!  The problem is that I don't have access to anyone that has any of that cool stuff, and I'm far too cheap (the reason I consume this site) to pay to ship those kinds of materials.  So I'm stuck with what's commercially available, and Ringer fits the bill (for how much longer I don't know!).

Good point about the rainforests...I know that's where I'd like to be.  Last time I was "hiking" (okay, walking a trail) in a forest I commented to my wife that I wish my lawn soil was like the soil in the forest...lots of organic material that the forest both provides and eats up!  We're all working towards that goal.

-Jeremy (didja see the part about your old address in your sig?  Just trying to help!)
 
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In our never ending, tireless persuit of perfection and customer satisfaction we have just introduced a line of fertilizers that might well satisfy those of thin wallet.  You can now get twice the coverage with half as much weight with some of them.
  The conventional organic fertilizers we've sold for years are very good always produce more than satisfactory results, however, as this string testifies, the bags are very heavy, fifty pounds and the coverage was always on the light side (2,500 square feet per bag) and as such, the shipping costs has become a deterrent to some people.  The price of fuel has made it even more of a problem than ever.
  So, we (I) went on a search through the wilderness that is now the organic marketplace and came up with a brand that includes beneficial microbial populations and provide the soil with the necessary components to promote healthy controlled growth and reduce plant stress. Each component is synergistic further increasing the efficacy & overall performance of the program.  Because of this innovation, it takes less fertilizer to do the same job because the plants can get what they need more easily.
  So, if you wanted to go organic with your lawn and garden but shipping costs got in the way, this might help you get over the hump.
  also, like everything else I have on my site, I used the stuff to make sure it was good and I'm very happy with the results I got and i know you will be too.
 
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And that line would be...?  Is it the Organica? 

Sorry, you've just got so much it's hard for me to tell what's new!
 
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Yes.  It's the organica products.  I try not to mention brands and pricing too much here so I don't over use my welcome by turning the discussion into my own personal bill board.
 
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I understand...thanks for clarifying though!  The stuff sounds interesting.  Thanks for letting us know of it's existence.

I appreciate your not using of the forums as a business/sales tool, I've been on too many sites that might as well be sponsored.  So far these forums seem to be holding up pretty well as far as being neutral.  Opinions abound, but there always seems to be justification to back them up...

Thanks,

-Jeremy
 
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