Wanted: Seeking more help in swapping for more historic crops or plants to honor my past.

Greetings friends and family! I'm looking to trade and swap for the following varieties to help with my community's and family's ancestry next year for my gardens from my community farm. I'm looking for more varieties of Miami, Potawatomi, Illinois, Ho-Chunk and Kickapoo crops for my local gardens in Chicago as well as more Dutch, French, German and British/Irish settler ones. I'm also concentrating on Cherokee, Choctaw, Natchez, Creole, Nigerian and Irish crops to honor my family's ancestry in Oklahoma, Mississippi and Louisiana. Here's what I'm trading first.
Trade:
1. Cherokee white flour corn
2. Cherokee Indian pumpkin
3. Tama flint or Winnebago mix flour corn
4. Julie White pigeon tobacco (from the Gun Lake tribe)
5. Cherokee yellow field corn
6. Miami green spotted pumpkin
7. Dutch Fork pumpkin
8. 1,000 year tobacco
9. Price's Cherokee beans
10. Munsee cornfield beans
11. Meskwaki red climber bean
12. Lenape white warty squash
13. Seneca or Skyscraper sunflower
14. Common milkweed
15. Red chokeberry
16. Lenape blue bread bean
17. Illinois white cushaw squash
18. Round leaf bush clover
19. Garnet Chile potatoes
20. Wild strain sunchokes
Return:
1. Spanish red sweet potatoes
2. Disc Nantes gourd (from the Cherokee and Choctaw)
3. One of the two types of Choctaw peas from Mississippi
4. Potawatomi muskmelon
5. Potawatomi calico sweet corn
6. Potawatomi or Pokagon pumpkin
7. Wea Fall beans
8. Gray Woman's Indian beans
9. Cherokee butter beans
10. True type of Winnebago blue flour corn
11. Crawdad beans
12. Motherland okra
13. Choctaw white flour or dent corn
14. Red Lake flint or a yellow Potawatomi flint corn
15. Miami-Sauk red flour corn
16. Oneida Hubbard squash
17. Munsee wolf bean
18. Virginia Orinco tobacco (original one from the British settlers or from Venezuela)
19. Sweet everlasting
20. Dogbane
21. Prairie cordgrass
22. Prairie alumroot
23. Wild kidney beans
If there's any more stuff from the tribes and settlers I mentioned that are not found yet or wild edible or medicinal plants that are native to the eastern half of the country, but not yet known, please let me know. Please reach me on this page and we'll discuss about where to go from there on my Purple Mooseage section. Take care!

By the way, I have some Mandan squash and few Cherokee yellow flour corn to sweeten things up. Anybody biting yet? Happy 2024!

Hello folks! Looking for some more Motherland Okra in return from my trade. Anybody out there have it?

Blake I have a lower garden which would love some pumpkin varieties, and about 10 acres I'd like to try converting to some thing less mow able (Prairie cordgrass). not sure how this contact each-other goes but purple moo-sage might be the spot.
John in NE Ohio

J Low! How you been? Let's chat in the Purple Moosage so we can exchange ideas and stuff to help move us forward into the year. Thanks for coming!

I mean J Styme! My bad!

I should think you'd want to get some sweet grass and some sage.

Hi, I'm new to permies, and trying to become more thrifty in my lifestyle. Spending less time on a mower would help. I am open to ideas.  I'm not ready to turn it all into forest yet, but think a bit more variety around the lake is a good idea for the wildlife. I'd like to have some Prairie cordgrass mixed in with the cattails, and milkweed in the soggy spot below the dam. The deer, birds and squirrels seem to like that area and I'd rather not get a mower anywhere near there. As for pumpkin trade, I'll have to ask my daughter what kinds we have. She said  Howden & jack be little's and some she's not sure of, so nope on the one's you're looking for.

Hello gang! Just got some stuff to help trade for some varieties such as the Motherland Okra, and a few others I've listed. I've got some more 1,000 year tobacco, Pungo Creek red dent corn, Hopi amaranth, Loofah gourd and a few others. Hopefully those will sweeten the deal for any trade for the ones I've listed. Good night!

Hi Blake, I'm new to Permies and I'm doing a very similar research project like yours, only I'm from Pennsylvania, so a lot Lenni Lenape and Dutch heirlooms out here. I do have a few Illinois squash I would trade for some tobacco! And have you found any extra information about the Strawberry Spinach plant's history?

Hey Jessica. How are you? The strawberry spinach or blite has been used for dye, edible leaves and berries to eat as long as it's in moderate fashion, or even makeup. Native Americans have used the native plant for centuries and has been introduced overseas by Europeans. By the way you have some more Lenape or Shawnee crops to trade from first before I get to the Illinois cushaw? I wanna trade for that stuff first and for more Cherokee tan pumpkins if anybody has it. Please let me know in the Purple Mooseage if you have any more Lenape, Shawnee, Cherokee or any other rarer Native American crops from the Midwest and the Great Lakes and I'll inquire. Good night!

Hello folks! I just received some type of Abenaki pumpkin from Maine and a couple of Tama flint and Meskwaki dent corn to use in a trade. I'd like to trade those for more Cherokee tan pumpkins, Nanticoke squash, Potawatomi red dent corn, and other rarer Native American crops from the Midwest and South. I also got some Lakota yellow dent corn, Hopi red flour corn and some southwest beans or skunk beans to use in a trade. I wanna make my gardens as historic as they can be this year. Take care!

Happy Summer folks! Long time no see. Missed you all over here. Still interested in swapping for more rare seeds from Native Americans and European settlers as well as some native plants from the Midwest since I'm from that region. Some of the stuff I'm trying to trade for to help reclaim my community's and region's past in Chicago and my family's ancestry in Mississippi and Oklahoma.
Here's a short list of what I wanna trade for this late summer or fall.
Midwest:
1. Wea fall beans ( from Kris Hubbard of Wildwood Farms in Kentucky and I've seen them before on a list from his seed adoption program)
2. Little Schoolhouse beans (Potawatomi, also from Kris Hubbard)
3. Potawatomi muskmelon (ones raised outside the Gun Lake tribe in Michigan)
4. Potawatomi calico sweet corn (also grown outside of the Gun Lake)
5. Pokagon or Potawatomi pumpkins ( if there's anybody growing some outside of the Potawatomi communities please let me know)
6. Potawatomi half runner or snap beans ( if anybody seen them and have grown some outside of the reservations)
7. More Tecumseh's flint corn
8. More Potawatomi tobacco
9. Potawatomi gray pumpkin ( pepo type that look like an Algonquian long pie type)
10. Miami-Sauk red flour corn (if anybody seen one)
11. More Dutch blue kale
12. Dutch gray peas
13. Serbian cabbage
14. Serbian melon
15. Yellow peas from early French settlers
16. Red or green onions from French settlers
17. Shawnee blue flour corn
18. Miami blue flour or white flint corn
19. More lumper potatoes
20. Sweet everlasting or prairie cord grass
Mississippi and Oklahoma:
1. Disc Nantes gourd (from the Cherokee and Choctaw and was listed at Sandhill Preservation in Iowa)
2. Cherokee red okra
3. Cherokee red or green popcorn
4. Cherokee squaw corn (also listed from Sandhill Preservation in Iowa)
5. Little barley grass
6. Chickasaw gourd
7. Chickasaw red flint corn
8. Cherokee butterbeans
9. Spanish red sweet potato
10. Cherokee red gourdseed corn
11. Cherokee village flour corn
12. Orinco tobacco
13. More Choctaw lipstick beans
14. Basket gourd
15. Kettle gourd
16. Chickasaw bush or pole beans
17. Choctaw gray or winter crookneck squash
18. Corn, bean or squash from the Tunica people
19. Brown cotton ( from former slaves in Mississippi)
20. Dent or sweet corn ( from the Mississippi tribes or former black slaves)
21. Cut short beans from Madison county Arkansas ( used to be raised by the Osage)
22. Watermelon or melon ( from any Mississippi tribe or from the Osage)
Those are all I'm looking for right now. If anybody out there grows this stuff, please let me know. Take care!

Blake, wow! Nice lists you are providing for us to use as a search resource when attempting to grow (for lack of a better term) "proper" plants and food for our wildlife/indigenous/natural gardens, thanks!

Welcome! I'm looking for somebody who has these rarer and unique varieties that can help me accomplish what I wanna accomplish year in year out. I'll make a future list of some types, heirlooms that fit my criteria for the Midwest and Southeast. I'm concentrating on Illinois, Indiana, Mississippi and Oklahoma that concentrate on Native Americans, European settlers and former black slaves and the crops that have stronger ties to them. Is there anybody out there who can aid me to the ultimate goal? Please reach me at the Purple Mooseage so we can privately explain my greater interests and what to going forward. Thanks for dropping by!

By the way, you have any strawberry spinach, trailing wild and wild kidney beans? I wanna grow the strawberry and trailing for my Midwest gardens and wild kidney for my Oklahoma or Mississippi garden. I'll be willing to trade for one of them. Please reach me at the Purple Mooseage if you all need me.

Hit me up for marbled glass gem Indian corn. So beautiful. Like yo ancestry

Greetings Rose! I wanna find out if you have any indigenous or settler crops to trade for. I have some glass gem corn.

Good evening folks! Missed you all on here. I have some yellow summer squash (crookneck or scallop), ruby queen beet, more oats, carrots and some other stuff in return for some rarer ones as well as some common ones to grow next year. Here's a list.
1. Disc Nantes gourd (Previously available from Sandhill Preservation in Iowa)
2. More Motherland okra
3. Cherokee basket gourd
4. Spanish red sweet potato (Previously from Sandhill Preservation)
5. Charlevolx dark red kidney beans (strain from Quebec previously from tribes and settlers)
6. More Miami -Potawatomi cranberry beans
7. Wea fall beans ( Previously from Kris Hubbard from Wildwood Farms in Kentucky)
8. Cherokee red okra or red okra 98
9. Miami -Sauk red flour corn
10. Sweet everlasting or rabbit tobacco
These are all I'm targeting right now to restore my community's and region's past in Chicago and my my family's ancestry in Mississippi and Oklahoma. Please reach me at the Purple Mooseage if any of you have these varieties after you all grown some from previous years. Take care

Do you have any of the old 8-row northern flint corn?

Greetings! Has the 8 row corn been widespread throughout the eastern half of America by Native Americans centuries ago? I'd like to learn more about the corn before inquiring it. Is it an ancient one that has passed on to the settlers? Thanks!

Blake Lenoir wrote:Greetings! Has the 8 row corn been widespread throughout the eastern half of America by Native Americans centuries ago? I'd like to learn more about the corn before inquiring it. Is it an ancient one that has passed on to the settlers? Thanks!

The northern tribes from New England through the great lakes regions and up into Canada grew 8-row flint corns. Our modern dent corns are a hybrid of 8-row northern corns and southern dent corns. Midwestern tribes grew more of a mix. My guess is that there was a lot of trading going on of different varieties and the Midwest was the mixing area.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30139112/

You still have that corn? If you have, please let me know in the Purple Mooseage section so we can talk more about the corn and where to go from there. Grown any other Native American types besides corn? Been trying to find more Midwest heirloom corn and stuff tied to the tribes in the Great Lakes area. If anybody knows or has more Midwest heirloom crops tied to indigenous peoples or early settlers, please let me know in this section and let me know the rest in the Purple Mooseage and we go from there. Good seeing ya!

Thanks, but I'll pass for more true varieties of crops. You have any other crops besides the ones you have?

Blake Lenoir wrote:Thanks, but I'll pass for more true varieties of crops. You have any other crops besides the ones you have?

Nothing original or directly traceable to specific Indian peoples or varieties. Most just mixes of whatever I have picked up over the years. Hope you are having some luck finding them.

You have some stuff tied to European settlers or immigrants such as late flat Dutch cabbage, scarlet horn carrots and so forth? And what about the West African types such as okra, greens and stuff? I have some Irish and Nigerian ancestry in my family as well as Creole from Louisiana and Mississippi. I have some Cherokee Freeman ancestry in my family from Oklahoma and have a great grandma and great aunt the remaining one from Milwaukee today. My great aunt has done well so far. If you or anybody else has the stuff I mentioned, please let me from this forum or privately to discuss plans on how I obtain them. Good seeing you!

Greetings friends! Back again! I have some seeds of Mexican or West Indian pumpkin, more Potawatomi red seed watermelon and yellow hyssop available if any of you are interested in some. I would like to be compensated for something in return to help my gardens culturally and ecologically. Here's what I'm looking for in return.
1. Sweet everlasting or rabbit tobacco
2. Trailing wild beans
3. Wild kidney or thicket bean
4. Disc Nantes gourd ( one I tried desperately to find at Sandhill Preservation in Iowa, but it's unavailable this year)
5. Potawatomi muskmelon ( if any of have any outside the Gun Lake Potawatomi reservation)
6. Octoroa cornfield beans ( growing that to help remember my cousin remember her true past in Baltimore and the rest of the Chesapeake region in Maryland)
7. Powhatan beans ( also for my Chesapeake garden next year to help remember my trip to the Chesapeake and visit to see my cousin in Baltimore)
8. Cherokee brown or speckled beans from Tennessee
9. Wea fall or Godfroy's beans ( ones from Kris Hubbard from Wildwood Farms in Kentucky)
10. Old pod corn ( grown by many Native Americans) or Chickasaw red flint corn
Those are all I'm targeting right now to help restore my family's ancestry in Mississippi and Oklahoma and the Calumet region in the Midwest and Chesapeake in Maryland to help restore my community's and region's and my cousin's past and to remember my trip to the Chesapeake Bay years ago. If you don't have any of those, then any of you have any Cherokee tan pumpkins or candy roasters from North Carolina, original fish pepper from the Chesapeake and possibly Calvert peas? I wanna restore my gardens back to an historic level for everyone to be edified and inspired. Please reach me at the Purple Mooseage if you need me. Take care!

Good afternoon friends! How are you? Missed you all over here. Just a relaxing day on my birthday today. Look, I'm finding some strawberry pinto beans and anybody have those? I also wanna find out its origins and stuff before I decide. I'm willing to swap my rainbow popcorn, Mexican pumpkin and stuff for some of the targeted stuff listed above. Please reach me at the Purple Mooseage section if you all need me. Have a good day!