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Neighboring living project in Canary

 
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We are here thinking about a way of living ecologically that would be adapted to the place...
A dispersed habitat is the norm because the land is not flat, so the best places can be at some distance though in the same area.
The idea is to create relationships between neighbors who want to develop the same kind of permacultural life without creating a community.
Of course we know a specific place where it could be done. It just have to be carefully planned with the sometimes old people owning the land now. It must be polite, uninvading and respectful. I will not tell about the exact place until some more ideas and interest show up. What is important is to know if some people are interested by moving, why and what for...

So I tell you what we look for and hence what we do not look for.
People that:
- can buy a piece of land on their own to live on it.
- have a job related to growing, breeding, building, making.
- Are off smoking and social drinking (wine as a preserved fermented food is something else!)

The project is also omnivore for some reasons, the main one being the old traditions of the island. The aborigines lived on goats because the land can bear more edibles for animals than for humans! As goats are now viewed like anywhere as a threat for plants, and as I believe this comes from the changes in tending the animals, the project is absolutely linked to animals and Allan Savory holistic grazing system.

The relationships between foreigners and Canarians are superficially goods but not so easy, with a lot of misunderstandings. This is Europe, but Africa... Progress has come later and faster. People emigrate, go to cities, pour a lot of chemicals. The level of cancer and diabetes is high. Alcohol and drugs are a problem. They are surprised by the interest of foreigners and think it is because of the climate, not for ecology (that make them laugh even when they do not tell). Last but not least in importance, this is ok to come and buy for any Europeans, but I do not know how people from other continents can come and settle here. Well, some people come from Venezuela and Cuba.

If you are interested by natural living in a remote place with little access and a lot of possibilities in land (hard because most flat land is terraced), frost free plant cultivation, energy, sun and wind, then let's start a discussion about it.

 
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I've been wanting to visit Lanzarote and Fuerteventura, what can you tell me about them? There's a lot you can do with as little as 100mm of precipitation a year and right on the shore there is the possibility of planting mangroves. Do they make much use of palo verde trees (Parkinsonia spp.) there? If you would like to try some, let me know and I can send you some beans.
 
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This is actually La Palma, so the island further north - west! Sorry I don't know anything about the 2 islands close to Africa...
 
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