miles mccoo wrote:
thank you, Jennifer, for an excellent answer
miles mccoo wrote:I have some followup questions.
On ponds. I really want some water on the property for my kids. I'd like to go to the eastern parts of the state because I can get more acreage and there are more available choices. If a pond really is out of the question in the OR/WA dessert areas, then I'll have to look more at the western parts.
Also on ponds, it seems from watching Holzer stuff, that his first answer is always "gotta put in ponds". Ask him if I should get a an Adobe house or a Craftsman, his answer will be "does it have a pond". It is just because he's way more talented at the pond thing than I would be?
miles mccoo wrote:fruit trees vs support species. I'm happy to do the 10:1 thing. I also know it would take a couple years to get to bearing age, so I wouldn't want to wait to even plant. Is it enough to plan similar sizes seedlings (or seed as Paul advocates) in these ratios?
miles mccoo wrote:last, Arizona climate is a bit different from what we have here in WA and OR. how much does that factor? Portland area gets 39"/year; way more than is needed to grow anything. 13" is about a third of that. 8" is 50% less again.
miles mccoo wrote:I suppose my question is a matter of how much is enough for most things? 39" is more than needed. maybe 30" is on the threshold, but you can go down to 20 if you do swales. 8 is enough if you've spent some years adding organic matter and shade. Adding a berm against the wind would give some more margin. Probably not linear. My point is not that I want an exact formula. I'm looking for an idea of how challenging the OR/WA dessert areas really are.
miles mccoo wrote:Phoenix gets 8 inches, one of the towns I'm looking at gets 13. Also Phoenix is hotter by 20 degrees in the summer. Given that, does the problem change from "a real challenge", to "it's not too bad if you follow some basic principles"?
miles mccoo wrote:You've both given me some new angles to think about. On the one hand, I feel a little bummed that the cheap land wouldn't be straight forward. On the other hand it doesn't sound so overwhelming.
miles mccoo wrote:I have a library copy of Lancaster's book. I will probably buy a copy. Same with Desert or Paradise. I hadn't noticed the water usage categories, but I get it, I think. If I can divert X square feet of runoff into 1, I have a higher effective rain. Seems obvious, but I hadn't thought of it that way.
miles mccoo wrote:Perhaps one thing you can comment on. Paul continually speaks of adding texture to the landscape. Hugelkulturs seems to be his equivalent of Holzer's ponds. Even though a hill drys out up top, it has a portion down below that is shielded from the wind. That is in the shade for a portion of the day.(depending on orientation). Maybe what's needed is digging hills and plan in between?
miles mccoo wrote:I'll surely have more questions. Thank you both for what you've provided.
I do think one would have to be crazy to live in AZ. I passed through there last year on a hot day, just the airport. Nuts. I grew up in Los Angeles, where it's not as hot, but here in Portland, I start complaining when it hits 80. MA is nice, I enjoyed my 4 college years there very much.