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2026 targets I need help finding from other places (in or near the U.S) for next year.

 
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        Good evening folks! I have a list of crops I'm trying to track down in 2026 to help restore my community's and family's past for edification and pass those on to future generations. Here we go!
1. Winnigstat cabbage
2. Early York cabbage
3. New Giant asparagus
4. Large white flat Norfolk turnip
5. Old white eggplant
6. Large Late Drumhead cabbage
7. Round leaf spinach
8. Spinach Red sweet potatoes
9. Long Dutch parsnip
10. Red Valentine pole beans
11. Yellow Guinea flint corn
12. Disc Nantes gourd
13. Little Yellow or Yellow Sioux flint corn
14. Celtic fava beans
15. Crown Imperial peas
Those are my targets from far and wide and do you all know where I could find some of these in America? Please shoot me in the Purple Moosage if you need me.
Good night!
   
 
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By the way, just found the Winningstat cabbage from a seed company in Illinois. I'm straght on that. Looking for more help in tracking down the rest from the Midwest and Gulf South from the 1700s and 1800s as well as Oklahoma where I have some of my great grandparents ancestry. Take care!
 
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Google says that some of these are alternate name and more easily found under their more common names.

2. Early York cabbage = Early Jersey Wakefield cabbage
3. New Giant asparagus = Jersey Giant asparagus
4. Large White Flat Norfolk turnip = Early White Flat Dutch turnip
7. Round Leaf Spinach = probably Malabar Big (Green) Round Leaf, but Giant Noble also has large round leaves, there's also a Chinese Spinach with round leaves
9. Long Dutch parsnip = Half Long Guernsey/ Half Long White
14. Celtic fava bean = Horse Bean/English Bean/Broad Windsor Fava

For the above I recommend checking with Baker Creek to start with. They popped up a few times in my searches, and probably have some of these if not all of them.

Old White eggplant did not bring up a specific variety with a more commonly known name.

I could only find a vintage seed packet for the Large Late Drumhead Cabbage. Lone Star Seed company of San Antonio, Texas sold it for 10 cents. Mary's Heirloom Seeds has an heirloom drumhead cabbage that can get up to 10-12 pounds. It looks similar to the illustration from that vintage packet, at least it looks similar to me. https://www.marysheirloomseeds.com/products/drumhead-cabbage

For the Spanish Red sweet potatoes, they could also be the Boniato and I found a source on Etsy for those. https://www.etsy.com/listing/4316748440/boniato-sweet-potato-tops-organic-ready?ls=s&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=boniato+sweet+potato+slips&ref=sr_gallery-1-4&sr_prefetch=1&pf_from=search&sts=1&content_source=1e0f83c2-e73f-4491-8af6-9dcaa02d8742%253ALT0f6adf189b0e95be7b1db3847417bf7937af0a4f&organic_search_click=1&logging_key=1e0f83c2-e73f-4491-8af6-9dcaa02d8742%3ALT0f6adf189b0e95be7b1db3847417bf7937af0a4f

I could only find Red Valentine beans in a bush variety.

Yellow Guinea Flint Corn seed can be purchased from the Montecello shop. https://monticelloshop.org/products/yellow-guinea-flint-corn-seeds-zea-mays-indurata-cv?srsltid=AfmBOoroAYYpaY_DaWqx0KW_M0hvzFle63VdSji-lsabh_i3dTtsXvWz

Sand Hill Preservation Center might have the Disc Nantes gourds for 2026. They haven't updated their Gourds page yet.

No luck on the Yellow Sioux flint corn or the Crown Imperial pea. I did find a great reference website for food in the colonial period of the USA's history that mentions Crown Imperial as the best pea in terms of flavor.

Good luck with your search. I hope this help some.
 
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Happy New Year Molly! How are you? Thanks for the info. Also looking for the Red Dutch cabbage and some Polish and Serbian varieties that look like the ancient ones from their homelands. I already have the Futog cabbage and Polish Eagle beans to commemorate my community's Eastern European past in Chicago since it has some of the largest Polish and Serbian populations in America and the world outside their motherlands.
Wanna make a significant difference to my community and region as well as to my family's ancestry in Mississippi, Louisiana and Oklahoma. I also have some Swedish ancestry in my community and I'm looking for some Blue Congo potatoes, Caucasian spinach and a Swedish yellow cucumber to collect for my restoration project to commemorate my community's past. Have a good day!
 
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Happy New Year to you as well, Blake! I'm tired, but good.

Apparently red Dutch cabbage is hard to track down. Look for Langedijker Allervroegste and red Langedijker Bewaar. I did find one website in Europe that sells seeds for the former, but I don't know if they're shipping to the US right now. Here's the link anyway: https://seeds-of-glory.com/product/horti-tops-red-cabbage-langedijker-allervroegste/

I found a Polish heritage website that sells seeds. https://www.polartcenter.com/Vegetable-Seeds-s/355.htm

Could only find one source for Blue Congo seed potatoes, but it's in the UK and says they are unavailable for this year.

Fedco Seeds has Caucasian Mountain Spinach.

No particularly Swedish yellow cucumbers showed up, but there is a Dutch variety that seems to be very old and might be what you're looking for. Gele Tros is available from Baker Creek.

Best of luck with the rest of your searching. I think I've helped all I can at this point.




 
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What's happening! Thanks for aiding me. You're welcome back to help anytime. Take care.
 
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