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Podcast 090: Geoff Lawton Part 2  RSS feed

 
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Paul Wheaton continues his conversation with Geoff Lawton. (The first part of the conversation is discussed here). Geoff talks about the importance of cooperation rather than territorialism–we need to promote anybody we can, and offer education wherever possible. It is the opposite of how you might normally think about business. We want to maintain networks and exchanges of information, and give away more than we take. Geoff talks about layers of community (generations, cultures) we need to work in, like layers in a food forest. You find a niche and fill it. Paul mentions edge. Geoff talks about intention in permaculture. He then goes into intentional diversity, saying, “We all have a lot to share with each other.” Listener questions asked include: What are essential tools in the field for a practicing permie? What are the 3 or 4 most essential practical skills for a practicing permie? Can you talk about evaporation and rainfall in relation to chop and drop? What are your experiences with hugelkultur What does he think of Sepp Holzer? Plan on writing any books/making more dvds? Geoff says he would like to know what people want to learn about. He and Paul talk about greening the desert in Jordan. Paul talks about Willie Smits in Borneo. Geoff talks about Allan Savory. Geoff talks about doing permaculture where there is 7 mm (1/4 inch) of rain per year in Chile. Geoff talks about international permaculture, big ag changing, and “biological agriculture.”

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Geoff talking about "white privilege occupation" made a fool of himself I think. What has that anything to do? is there any place in which one can just be without having to be listening to all that PC nonsense nowadays? White privilledge? plan, work hard, grow your garden and sell your produce, that's it, I don't feel any more privilege than any other man that can and will do the same, and I'm not feeling inclined to apologize for my garden to anyone, so, really, don't go that way, not in the permaculture family at least, please, thank you.
 
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gordo kury wrote:Geoff talking about "white privilege occupation" made a fool of himself I think. What has that anything to do? is there any place in which one can just be without having to be listening to all that PC nonsense nowadays? White privilledge? plan, work hard, grow your garden and sell your produce, that's it, I don't feel any more privilege than any other man that can and will do the same, and I'm not feeling inclined to apologize for my garden to anyone, so, really, don't go that way, not in the permaculture family at least, please, thank you.


Sorry I didn't hear it that way. He was just making a statement that there are certain ethnic niches where Pc still hasn't taken route yet.
 
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you might be right
and I hope you are
 
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Geoff's comment on "White privilege" was most likely based on the fact that there is a disproportionate amount of Caucasians to any other race group, and of that group, the majority have a higher level of education and income - hence, the potential for someone to assume there is "white privilege." This assumption works against the goal of getting permaculture to those who need it most - the disadvantaged and poor - and prevents us as a whole getting to the tipping point. Fortunately, Geoff also made it clear that some of their best work is being done in the poorest neighborhoods of Detroit where the population is in dire need of support and empowerment.

In order to serve those populations, you need more teachers in those populations - especially in Latino populations (he also mentioned we should be teaching more PDCs in Spanish, right?).
 
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I'm more in favor of a meritocracy, skinn collor doesn't really matter at all to the plants, even to eggplants or cantelopes
it has nothing at all to do with regeneration of the land, it really doesn't.
Intelligent people of any race will and do learn from other intelligent people regardless the collor of their skinn. I'm more or less white and I wouldn't care the less if my teahcer is black (or whatever other collor), if he is a good teacher I would be happy to learn from him, and I'm sure is the same the other way around
 
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