Location: Federal Way, WA - Western Washington (Zone 8 - temperate maritime)
posted 7 years ago
Thanks! I'll definitely try to get a yuzu next spring BTW, I did get a kefir lime plant, but discovered it had the lemon balm flavor that I don't care for... I much prefer lemon verbena and lemon grass.
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I just got back from a trip to Japan and it is definitely yuzu season there! What a wonderful fruit. I had yuzu rind as a flavoring in many soup broths, candied yuzu peels, and an excellent yuzu stuffed with canten for dessert! In Japan they even use it to add a delicious aroma to bath salts. From talking to other folks in Western Washington yuzu sounds like one of our most promising citrus in that they are quite hardy and actually taste wonderful (unlike Flying Dragon or Trifolate Orange).
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My take on citrus trees in the PNW, Zone 8, is that a mature tree will survive the winters with minimal care, but we generally lack sufficient heat/warmth in the summers to make them productive.
This is pretty much what I have come to think. Also, aren't the summer temperatures quite a bit higher on average where Sepp Holzer is?
I'll stick to my hawthorn and rosa rugosa as a source of homegrown Vitamin C, and I hope to expand them greatly and add a lot of sea buckthorn and elderberry for next year. Maybe goumi and cornelian cherry down the line. Anyone have experience with them?
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Location: Orcas Island, WA
posted 7 years ago
Maybe goumi and cornelian cherry down the line. Anyone have experience with them?
Goumi and Cornelian Cherry are both winners for this climate. For the Cornelian Cherries I suggest getting the named varieties as they tend to be much better than the seedlings. Make sure you get two different types for pollination. Also, we've found that planting them close together will make that pollination happen much better than putting them on opposite ends of the yard. We had a bumper crops this year. one of our trees got dragged down to the ground under the weight!
Goumi is easy and good. A winner for sure. I think there is a new variety hitting the market through Raintree Nursery or One Green World in 2012. Might be worth checking out.
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I've been growing citrus trees for about 30 years, but I do bring them in during the winter. Some years, if I fertilize well and pollinate with a brush or let flies do it, I get a pretty good lime crop. The best dwarf for indoors that I know of is Bearss. I know I'm not the only one growing Bearss around here. I used to work for lawyers, and one had his in a window year-round and got quite a few limes. These are really delicious fruit, but the flowers are not very big or fragrant.
I also have a grapefruit that makes unbelievable flowers--so fragrant. I can't remember the variety, but you can only get ones that work with in and out from local nurseries in Portland.
I also have a mandarin with edible skin. The cat has broken branches on it, but I taped it back up, and it bears.
Some citrus don't bear much inside unless stressed. Mine are frequently stressed, so they flower quite a bit. Getting the fruit to ripen, other than with the lime, is quite a bit trickier. Still, these are wonderful indoor/outdoor plants in my opinion.
I know people who have had Meyer lemons survive left outside, but I don't like them that much, so I don't grow them.
Location: North Georgia / Appalachian mountains , Zone 7A
posted 6 years ago
I would have to say if I was limited to ONE type of citrus, and was looking for practicality and usefulness, it would be the Owari Satsuma mandarin.
It is hardy to the low 20's, sweet, rich flavor , seedless, and "zipper" skinned (very easy to peel), and they ripen in November before hard freezes come. They are also naturally small/dwarf trees.
Unripe Satsumas can be used like lemons.
In my opinion it is the PERFECT citrus, even including Florida sweet oranges and other non-hardy types.
My two trees have survived temps down to 11F inside a simple temporary row house / passive greenhouse. I do have a few light bulbs hanging above them that I turn on when the outside temps are below 25F or so. This little effort and tiny bit of electricity is completely worth being able to walk out in the front yard and eat a tasty mandarin right off a tree.
Sure, there are much more hardy citrus that could live in the same place completely unprotected (such as citrangequat), but the Satsumas are worth the little extra effort in my opinion. Some people in more Southerly zone 8 / 9 regions might get by with just throwing a blanket over Satsumas a few times a winter.
Totally possible and reasonable to do citrus and more in our climate. Just visited Bob Duncan yesterday at his nursery. Hundreds of oranges and lemons all over his trees. Also avocado, feijoa, olives, apricot, nectarines, etc. I am consulting for anyone who would like to design/install citrus or these other trees. I have been studying and working with this topic for years now. It is possible. Welcome to our new reality.
Citrus are growing here outside or in an unheated greenhouse. they are planted in the ground and are full size and fruit prolifically. they are located at bob duncans nursery near victoria. there are no special tricks or varieties. Simply good design and time. Get out there and grow citrus, among other things, it is totally possible.
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