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Hi Kadence. Totally happy to answer your questions.

kadence blevins wrote:hey-o Christian! I got a question for ya...
"If the Campaign Funding Goal was reached, then the money will be paid to your account, less a 8.5% marketplace processing fee. This fee is a combination of the fees retained by the Payment Processors and the platform fees of WeTheTrees.com. All Contributions paid to a Campaign Entity will constitute 'Campaign Funding,' and the WeTheTrees fee and all other Campaign Funding requirements will apply."

does that mean I should be adding a bit to my total to cover the fee so i'll still be sure to have enough?



Yes, that would be very smart to account for that 8.5% in your budget.

kadence blevins wrote:"You shall have full responsibility for applicable taxes for all Campaign Funding paid to you under this Agreement"

I hadn't thought about taxes and this /: I found this info from a web search:
"Items given from one individual to another are covered by gift tax laws. In most circumstances, the receiver of the gift isn't liable for taxes on the value of the gift, while donors may gift up to $13,000 per year per person without invoking the gift tax. Amounts more than $13,000 are subject to taxation, but it's the donor who is assessed taxes on the value of the gift."
"Donation vs. Compensation
Donations from your employer are not the only type that may need to be reported as income. Donations given with the expectation of services rendered or goods provided are treated as income and must be claimed."

so not sure if this would be considered compensation or what.. or if I would be taxed or what... i'll have to look more on that.



I think you are correct. When doing a campaign that is not above $13,000 you needn't worry about the tax implications, but just to cover my butt, please don't consider this tax advice or the final word on the manner. I personally have not worried about this when I have run campaigns for myself or my projects.

You site something about a $2,000 limit. This is in relations to individual contributions. Any individual can only give $2,000 per contribution and a maximum of 3 contributions from that individual per campaign. So just to be clear, you can set your campaign goal at any amount. $100. or $2,000 $15,000 or $1,000,000.

I personally recommend putting this entire project into one campaign, and making a serious push on this one campaign. I think that contributors are more likely to get fired up about one big campaign, and give to it and promote it, whereas if they see you post another campaign that is related to a first one, they might feel like they already gave to that campaign and will be not as interested.

But of course, the strategy is up to you.

I hope that helps.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me directly at: christian (at) wethetrees.com

Thanks for all you do
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kadence blevins wrote:" in any amount you choose, greater or equal to $5, not to exceed $2000"

um... so I would need to make 'part 1' for $2000 or break it down to... part 1, uhaul costs (about $2000)... part 2, gas costs (about $800)... part 3, getting started (about $550)....



Kadence, this section you are quoting is from the "contributing" section of the WeTheTrees FAQ's. Each contributor can contribute between $5 and $2000 for each contribution (maximum three contributions per person). This does not mean that your campaign needs to be under $2000. You can set it to whatever level you like and hopefully you get the support of many, many contributors!

kadence blevins wrote:"but then i'd probably have like part 1 for 3wks and part 2 for 3wks, which you can have two campaigns going at once so these could be goin at the same time (would I need different rewards or could I use the same ones for them all?)... then part 3 isn't too terribly much so like 2wks for that probably would be alright (again, same rewards??)

that way it would be like total of 5wks until the campaigns would be over and hopefully they make it and get enough donations. then lets say I make the part 1 and 2 campaigns on the fifth next week and part 3 right after they end, it would be july 10 when they end. then just however long it takes for the money to go through and packin up then two or three days to make the trip.



The strategy is up to you, but I suggest considering putting all these campaigns into one, because really they are all raising money for the same goal. I think it would be easier to promote and get the energy and excitement up about one campaign than with three. But, this is my own opinion, and not the only way to do it. Totally up to you.

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paul wheaton wrote:Quick notes:

I'm not sure about wethetrees, but with kickstarter, you are setting up a permaculture vlog. So "what it is" is relative to the folks forking over money instead of what it means to you. The folks with the dollars might think "shiny - I would enjoy such a vlog, therefore I will part with funds to have me some of that thar vlog."

Taxes: If you get $50,000 and put it in your pocket (or in a bank, or buy candy or set it on fire), you owe the tax man something like $15,000. On the other hand if you get $50,000 and then spend $50,000 on a fancy camera for your vlog (your brand new business-ish thing), you owe the tax man $0.00. It is an expense. The tax man only taxes you on "income-expenses" (of course, the actual algorithm fills a library).




ahh. thanks I suck with legalities of anything other then animals really hahaha.
 
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Christian Shearer wrote:Hi Kadence. Totally happy to answer your questions.

kadence blevins wrote:hey-o Christian! I got a question for ya...
"If the Campaign Funding Goal was reached, then the money will be paid to your account, less a 8.5% marketplace processing fee. This fee is a combination of the fees retained by the Payment Processors and the platform fees of WeTheTrees.com. All Contributions paid to a Campaign Entity will constitute 'Campaign Funding,' and the WeTheTrees fee and all other Campaign Funding requirements will apply."

does that mean I should be adding a bit to my total to cover the fee so i'll still be sure to have enough?



Yes, that would be very smart to account for that 8.5% in your budget.

kadence blevins wrote:"You shall have full responsibility for applicable taxes for all Campaign Funding paid to you under this Agreement"

I hadn't thought about taxes and this /: I found this info from a web search:
"Items given from one individual to another are covered by gift tax laws. In most circumstances, the receiver of the gift isn't liable for taxes on the value of the gift, while donors may gift up to $13,000 per year per person without invoking the gift tax. Amounts more than $13,000 are subject to taxation, but it's the donor who is assessed taxes on the value of the gift."
"Donation vs. Compensation
Donations from your employer are not the only type that may need to be reported as income. Donations given with the expectation of services rendered or goods provided are treated as income and must be claimed."

so not sure if this would be considered compensation or what.. or if I would be taxed or what... i'll have to look more on that.



I think you are correct. When doing a campaign that is not above $13,000 you needn't worry about the tax implications, but just to cover my butt, please don't consider this tax advice or the final word on the manner. I personally have not worried about this when I have run campaigns for myself or my projects.

You site something about a $2,000 limit. This is in relations to individual contributions. Any individual can only give $2,000 per contribution and a maximum of 3 contributions from that individual per campaign. So just to be clear, you can set your campaign goal at any amount. $100. or $2,000 $15,000 or $1,000,000.

I personally recommend putting this entire project into one campaign, and making a serious push on this one campaign. I think that contributors are more likely to get fired up about one big campaign, and give to it and promote it, whereas if they see you post another campaign that is related to a first one, they might feel like they already gave to that campaign and will be not as interested.

But of course, the strategy is up to you.

I hope that helps.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me directly at: christian (at) wethetrees.com

Thanks for all you do
Christian



ok awesome (: thanks so much! I never realized I was reading about campaign on one page and donating on another page.

that makes it easier though! I can do it all in one go then. now i'm just a bit nervous about setting it too short that it wont get enough donations and i'll have to start it again /: *bites nails*

total is 3350... 8.5% of that is 284.75... new total is 3635... round out to $3,650

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name of campaign: community life! {suggestions anyone?? i'm drawing a blank for this}

about campaign: {workin on this part now}

badge summary: {hey-o Christian again lol I have no idea what this means}

category: education

video: {anything I should really add??}

fundraising goal: $3,650

campaign duration in days (less then 60) : 30 days {too long?? too short??}

rewards: i'm going to be doing a daily vlog. every day i will do a video of how things are going, what is being started or talked about, what projects have been finished up, interviews with other community peoples about them and their projects, etc.
$10-29: name in raffle to name a cow! will be two winners! (shout out to person in videos when possible)
$30-49: name in raffle to name a rabbit, will be three winners! (shout out to person in videos when possible)
$50-69: name in raffle to name a goat, will be three winners! (shout out to person in videos when possible)
$70-89: name in raffle to name a sheep, will be three winners! (shout out to person in videos when possible)
$90-99: name listed in a video
$100-1: select a topic for a video
$140-159: listed as "supreme executive producer with bacon, cheese and sparkles" for one video
$160-179: sent links to goofy "blooper" videos that wont be public videos
$180-199: photo in a video
$200-249: ask five questions to be answered in a video
$250-299: ask ten questions to be answered in a video
$300+: sent links to "bonus footage" videos that wont be public videos
$ if i raise {amount of money} more then my goal i will do special episodes for children very simply explaining permie things, how nature works together that these permie ideas work so well, baby animals and how they grow up, simple explanations of how the animals are cared for, what the different animals eat,....
 
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The badge summary is one sentence or phrase that sums up the campaign, and catches the interest of the viewer. It will be visible on your "campaign badge" which is what you see many of when you go the the home page at http://www.WeTheTrees.com

Check out the other badge summaries by going to our homepage and you can get a sense for what they are like.

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ahh! ok I thought that was the title of them. okiedokie (: thanks
 
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it is all ready except the video! super excited and super nervous!
 
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When doing a campaign that is not above $13,000 you needn't worry about the tax implications, but just to cover my butt, please don't consider this tax advice or the final word on the manner. I personally have not worried about this when I have run campaigns for myself or my projects.



In tax lingo, a gift is nearly always something given without an expectation of receiving anything in return. You might be able to add some phrasing to your campaign that would totally confound people, thereby qualifying your receipts as gifts, but for the amount you want to raise it would be a waste of time.
 
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well it keeps raining today so no video ): I really have no place to do it in the house and was hoping to use a nice field for background... but of course it's raining all darn day...
 
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well here goes nothing... i'm uploading my video to the video site so I can edit it and put it on the campaign!!!

how long should I expect for it to be okayed after I add the video?
 
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well nuts D: vimeo doesn't seem to like me... havin issues getting the video uploaded
 
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alright I am going the long way around... uploading to youtube, editing down, hopefully will be enough that I can upload it to vimeo to put on the campaign...
*whew* hahahaha see I got this
 
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I am available right now.
 
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Bob Allgier wrote:I am available right now.



thanks. lol on some things when I don't know something I really have absolutely no clue about it hahahahaha (:
waitin on youtube to process the video (no worries I didn't post it out, only I can see it). then i'm going to see if its under the MB limit.

first video was 612MB. just figured out how to see how many MB video is. and vimeo has limit of 500MB. so hopefully this video fits.... BUT just in case it doesn't (because I really like the new one I did!) is there a way I can make it fit..??
 
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ok i'm not sure exactly how it worked but it did! hahahaha!

ended up redoing the video slightly shorter (luckily ended up likin it better too)... upload to youtube and edit and add pics I wanted... download back to computer.... says its 9.05MB! the original plain video before uploaded to youtube says 193MB!

so I don't know how exactly it works but I managed to get it! just waitin for it to "convert" on the site so I can link it on wethetrees! (:
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