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Clutter madness vs. zero waste - where's the balance?

 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:My problem is that we've inherited a lot. We have a 950sqft house, with two kids. My parents kept all of my childhood toys and passed them on to me, and the kids have gotten a lot of toys, and so we have bins and bins of fantastic toys to learn and play with...and little room to store them. Currently most of the bins are in our 500sqft "garage," but the garage is mostly full now, and not well organized.

And, now my grandparents are moving to a retirement apartment and distributing most of their stuff. ANd it's all amazing, memory filled, quality stuff. Glass plates we at Christmas dinner on, jewelry, stainless steel pots and pans, knife sets, photo albums, sewing supplies, an antique portable washer and a sewing machine and so much more. I don't want to sell or donate their amazing things...but where to put it all? ??



*My first thought is that your children can’t possibly play with all those toys!
Why don’t you keep the favorites and
donate the rest to children who don’t have ANY toys?
Next prioritize everything else, maybe you could donate some of your things and keep  your grandparents
precious items that have meaning to you?
Lastly, ask yourself “ If you met a family who had lost their home, from a
catastrophe…. Would you or would you not share your abundance with them?”

 
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I recently realized I am zero waste OCD edit; Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

I realized just thinking about upcycling and stacking functions invokes a glee response : dopamine fix !

So yes, I clutter, I hoard because short of mail order, involving accompanying fibre glass threads in the tape on the boxes that will be used then composted, and plastic bubble packets (why are those still legal??), I end up having to hoard a lot of stuff
Because the stores are so far away!!!.

Add to that low income (even though there are minimal heat costs, no mortgage etc.,) and it is hard to throw out clothing that will fit again, once full recovery from surgery is attained. Especially as the quality of clothing is declining faster than you can say China. And much of the hoard is thrift store quality clothing.

For me, one of the challenges was organization.
I have very poor organization and planning skills.

But

I am well on my way to hoarding recovery!

While off grid, reading and listening to umpteen books on how, I found one useful piece of advice, while doing dishes and listening to a book

Where do I put this item that needs to be put away?

Forget where it should go
(After this place has been cleared out and that stuff has been sorted through)
Put it where you would look for it
That's your current system whether you like it or not

Later, you can always go back and relocate a whole section.

So I set about thinking about all my stuff, some of it inherited as such when I bought my small house, and decided to treat the whole property as a department store / hardware store
I got help with identifying small hardware as this stuff isn't cheap, but did quite well separating this sort of thing into clear plastic jars, before obtaining help
The rest: clean it, label it, date if applicable, bag in clear ziplock bags where applicable, glass jars of its food stuffs (mice)
Buy tons of galvanized cans and have a system to identify contents, standard Rubbermaid totes, get rid of the chests of drawers and use totes for everything, and, try to get everything off the floor, and put out the door where possible.

I'm one of those people who can't make decisions while already doing the above task, so:
Forget the guilt that some of this you will need to downsize -- you can do that later when you've gone through all of (one person's clothes / food items / auto items / bedding etc)

In my case being remote, forget garage sales and online sales: just give it away, compost, throw away, or keep.

The thing with keeping is to treat every space as a container. A cupboard holds so much (and nothing can fall out when it opens) so if that's all the space you have for this item, the rest must go, unless you crucially need an overstock area that you can newly create (like storage above the bathroom door for light, unbreakable ziplock bagged towels)

Lastly, a rule of thumb is if you want to bring that in the house, stuff twice that volume must go out.

The main thing is working towards everything being clean, stored with like items, identifiable by others, and easy to find.

If you hoard, prep, or simply stock everything so you don't need to leave home, I think it's okay as long as you can find what you need.
When COVID came, my life didn't change.
 
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I am really struggling with this balance right now. We've rented this house for 5 years and then bought it from the landlord. This is the longest time I've been in one place as an adult and I now understand how people accumulate so much stuff. I used to move every couple of years and was forced to get rid of things while moving. This is also the biggest space I've lived in. I have pretty severe OCD plus I come from a family of "pack rats" so I not only am used to living with clutter, but I mentally struggle to let go of things out of fear or anxiety. A lot of it is what OP mentioned about not wanting to contribute to the landfill. I don't know why I think it's healthier to live overwhelmed by clutter and take on all that burden myself. I'm not really saving the world by keeping a few bags of garbage out of the dump. I could do more good on this earth by being happy and healthy. I know I WANT to get rid of things, but I get very overwhelmed when I start. I feel the need to do things in a certain order, or a certain way, and I feel a lot of guilt if I don't give things to a "good home". I struggle to get rid of sentimental things as well. I love history and value material objects that are rare, so I also struggle with the antiques I have. I have a lot I could sell, but you have to store that while you're waiting for people to buy it from Ebay etc. I know there are books but then I can't decide which book is the right book to use. It's easier said than done to "Just do it!" but I have been consistently putting things in boxes and taking them to the thrift store, it's just very slow and a small amount. I'm thinking of starting some kind of accountability thread. Does anyone else need some community to feel accountable to in tackling the major task of finding balance?
 
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Sunny Kahlo wrote:

It's easier said than done to "Just do it!"

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I have come to hate that word "just" when used like this!!

It certainly is a lot easier said than done!!!

I have a feeling we would get along like a house on fire!!

I've had my 850 sq ft  house more than 20 years and when items are borrowed, bartered, or given to neighbors who need things as simple as engine oil, rather than an hour travel time, and food and hardware 3 hours away, it's no wonder people in my area accumulate!
Or that we didn't get COVID in our community for over two years.

I would say if things are gradually improving, that's good enough.

I so appreciate what you say about land fill guilt. Also, I was raised by parents who were children in WW2 rationing and raised by pack rats is an understatement: they were both disorganized pack rats at best!

My goal is to make room for guests and move out all stored items that don't need heating and aren't daily use.

Unfortunately I am still accumulating books! But they are my passion! I just scored a used copy of  Matt Power's Permaculture Student 2 and can't wait to receive it! I have no shame about my extensive library!
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