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Daniel Kern
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Does anyone have any experience with protecting fruit trees from birds using sepp holzer's bone sauce? In podcast 075 Paul says that his uncle's apple tree gets raided by birds every season. I wonder if sepp holzer's bone sauce would keep the birds away
 
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Daniel Kern : Some time in your life you probably have run into a BBQ grill that belongs to a group, and maybe even eaten parking lot chicken BBQ at someone Business

The damn things never get cleaned, if nearly new the crude is scrapped off and the burners turned on high to turn ant thing left to sterile Charcoal.

Imagine it was left open in a driving rain and then closed back up to bake in the sun for a week ! That is what Sepp's Bone Sauce smells like, it will work to convince a
deer to go feed on someone else's leaves, and rabbits to chew on someone else's Tree Bark !

I do not Know the percentage point for how many birds can actually smell most go by eyesight ! I hope this is timely and helps ! For the crafts ! Big AL
 
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Sorry Daniel, I'm going to come over all negative here

Someone wrote somewhere here that you should avoid getting the sauce on leaves, as it will burn them to a crisp, and potentially kill the tree.
That was talking about young trees, but I assume it would defoliate a mature tree just as effectively.

Also: birds usually come in from the sky, and I can't begin to envisage how you'd get the stuff onto a mature tree's canopy.

And: most 'perching' birds (usually the type eating grain/fruit) have a pretty average sense of smell...
I on the other hand, have a very good sense of smell/taste
and considering the sauce is designed to be incredibly long-lasting and stinky,
I probably couldn't eat the crop it was protecting anyway.
 
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I have heard the rumors. I made the sauce with a friend one time, and it did smell like death, but it wasn't the worst thing that I had ever smelled. I have a feeling that the animals are more sensitive to this kind of thing than humans are. In biodynamics Rudolf Steiner proposes to burn the bugs and spread the bug ashes around your crops in order to deter the bugs. He says it is the energy of the prep that repels the bugs.

Leila, Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to keep it off leaves. But from what I've heard if you put it on the bark it somehow permeates throughout the whole tree and repels effectively repels animals for a long time, even after the smell is not noticeable to humans.

But to repel birds, your right, you may need to do a bit more then paint the sauce onto the trunk. maybe it would work to climb the tree and paint it onto some of the higher up limbs.

 
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Compare the labor involved in this, to what it would take to put a net over it. Let's assume that you have some long bamboo poles to assist with net placement. I think the net wins. It can be used over and over again.
 
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It probably does win, but a paint brush could also be put on a stick to reach higher branches, and it would only need to be applied once, and the tree should be okay for a long time.
 
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