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wayne stephen
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In the "Politics' forum earlier today I wrote about the Libertarian Free State Project that is underway and bearing fruit. Here is the link:

http://www.permies.com/forums/posts/list/41530#325011

So, politics aside I wondered how this strategy would pan out for permaculture folks. What would happen if we chose a state or region and agreed to move there enmass?
Would we be able to validate more effectively the permaculture model as regional community{s} vs. the isolated pockets of brilliance that now exist? Imagine if you would a Polyface Farm, Mark Shepards Orchard and market farm, A Homestead Meatsmith, a Helen Atthowes style veganic farm, Wheatons Labs, builders like Jay C. White Cloud, rocket stove scientists, multiple Eco- Communities, and hundreds of urban homes with Gaia Gardens, bee hives, and solar panels all within 50 miles of each other. Market gardens, food co-ops, craftsfolks, musicians. Earthworks designed across multiple landholdings. Private and collective schools for the little ones. Utopia? Close enough?

So, here is my proposition. We collaborate here on permies.com and follow the same strategy used by the Free State Project. We chose a region or state by touting the pros and cons of each . We create a flag. We create a facebook page and website {Of course,I am partial to permies.com being HQ so everything links to here}. We set deadlines and reasonable goals/timelines. We have open and liberal civil discourse like the mature adults that we are! Which leads me to say this:

I do not think any of this will work if we attach politics, religion, ethics, etc to our collaboration. Personally, I would adhere to Mollisons' admonition within this quote:

"So it’s a revolution. But permaculture is anti-political. There is no room for politicians or administrators or priests. And there are no laws either. The only ethics we obey are: care of the earth, care of people, and reinvestment in those ends."

In my mind that does not mean that individually we do not have opinions and biases. It means that people of different biases and political bents can formulate organic and spontaneous relationships appropriate to unique and ever changing situations. I will keep it short and and open the discussion. I would ask that you view this video by the Free State Project and superimpose "Permaculturist" or Permaculture" wherever the word Libertarian or Liberty is used. Using our imaginations and the template outlined in this video , can we achieve something of worth?


 
Miles Flansburg
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Here is the founder of the Wyoming group . Not sure why they didn't splice the other folks out. Just have to fast forward a little bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74v9v_n3LuY
 
Dan Boone
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I get the appeal of the notion of a concentration of permaculturalists. I do.

However, I have to think that anybody who is actually already doing permaculture has got to be the hardest sell in the world on the notion of relocating. Once you've got your blood and sweat and tears mixed into a piece of dirt and the fruit trees are starting to bloom, it's not easy to contemplate starting over somewhere else.

I was friends with some Free State Project people around the time they held the vote that resulted in New Hampshire being picked. They lost an ENORMOUS number of people at that point, because lots of the people who had signed on were only interested if the location picked was the one they already wanted. I suspect people with literal roots in the soil would be even harder to bring together.
 
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Maybe one of these big parcels of land in Nevada would be a good place to start?

http://www.nvlandman.com/index.html
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