Are walls more "solid" with the posts set in?
Patricia Sanders wrote:...Simple question: If the posts are set into the corner bales, the scoria bags need to accommodate the post somehow. I haven't worked with bags, but it looks like they are not that easy to force into a shape like around a post. So, specially sewn bags? Mini bags to fill in the spaces? Adobe bricks?
OR the posts could be positioned external to the corner. Which would save me from notching corner bales, but might slightly complicate the roof framing (conventional hip roof).
Are walls more "solid" with the posts set in?
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Patricia
St. Johns, Arizona
I personally prefer setting posts just interior to the wall to simplify bagwork, balework, and post setting. it also gives you an easy method of attaching interior walls, shelves, cabinets, etc. the exposed timber aesthetic.
Jay, i'd enjoy reading your thoughts on internal/external/infill frame sometime.
I'm tending toward external corner posts because I'm going to wrap the house with porches/verandas so will need exterior posts anyway. Also the interior is so tiny, I'm loathe to give up any space at all.
To clarify, the "modified post and beam" system I refer to is, essentially, building the window and door bucks to extend from the foundation to the beam so that they serve as structural supports. Bucks consist of box columns the width of the bale wall made of 2x lumber sheathed with plywood or OSB, with additional support under the beam.
Jay, your point about this being a challenge for a first-timer is well taken! I might just be overconfident in this case. I'll get the plans looked at.
So double wall systems is another way to say a wall truss system?
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I'm a bit curious... post and beam construction stands on it's own. Strawbale structures, when built in load bearing fashion, stand on their own...no matter the foundation.
To me, it does seem overly complicated to try to tie in posts, bags, and bales, then cover them all with stucco, or clay/lime rendering and have them all expanding at different rates. Just a thought.
I'm pretty sure the standard strawbale house get's tied down to whatever foundation (cement, bags, laid stone, block). I've never like the thought of just using bales as infill, mainly because of the expense of building a frame house, then adding bales, when compressed bales are extremely strong, and are known to last centuries when built properly.
Jay C. White Cloud wrote:Hi Dean, Further, stucco is a OPC based material and....j
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