I am also in Oklahoma, and inherited quite a bit of bermuda grass. I would prefer the native buffalo grass which has a similar growth pattern, but we each must play the cards we are dealt.
Greg Perry wrote:We live on acreage in Oklahoma and are moving more and more towards permaculture. We adopted the Back to Eden garden philosophy last year with the wood chips and are loving it. We are planting out in our land surrounding our cleared area too. We implemented Paul's chicken paddock system this year and our ladies love their new, rotating home!
Our big problem is Bermuda Grass. I haven't heard Paul talk much about it but I suspect they don't have much of it in Montana where they don't have a month or two of 100-degree days,
Even with deep wood chips, the Bermuda grass travels and takes over. Even when we weed, it takes over.
Did I say it takes over?
My REAL Question: The permaculture philosophy just lets things grow where they land, no weeding, etc. We'll be doing more and more Seth-like stuff as each year passes. BUT - if, in general, we just let things fall where they may and let the earth take over and do its thing, is it possible that we could completely IGNORE the invading Bermuda grass in our garden without ANY side effects?
You know the traditional gardeners - weed, spray Roundup for the Bermuda, weed, spray more Roundup for the Bermuda, till, spray more Roundup, just keep that bare earth BARE!!!
I assure you, we don't believe those lies anymore. BUT - Bermuda is incredibly invasive.
BUT is the Bermuda our area's way of protecting our garden area? Will it be fine to plant there and just let it grow among the wood chips that we use to otherwise cover around our plants? OR is Bermuda truly a nutrient-robbing problem that we need to address and not ignore?
Thanks! - Greg
siu-yu man wrote:
trade ya some of my bermuda for some of your horsetail?
Michael Bushman wrote:If its growing in your wood mulch, are you putting down cardboard first? A combination of solarizing areas, and or sheet mulching can work on larger areas but that is most definitely work.
Sure you can mow it but that takes time and labor and energy if you are not using a push mower. Chickens won't eat enough of it unless you are really keeping them hungry which is going to reduce your volume of eggs.
I have gotten it out of small plots by digging them up, pulling all the rhizomes I can find, watering and fertilizing the spot and then pulling up those I miss after they sprout again. Good light soil helps with the pulling. I have always wondered if pigs would get in there and get most of it. My chickens do not eat much of the bermuda grass but they are hell on the nutgrass, they love it, and eat the new sprouts fast enough to just about kill it off.
I don't mind weeds but I want them to be ones that don't make it hard to work the soil, don't climb up through my other plants, and that produce either food or improve my soil, bermuda grass isn't it. Since permies are not focused on native plants, I figure that we can have the plants we want where we want them.