• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Dale's chimney removal.

 
Posts: 9002
Location: Victoria British Columbia-Canada
707
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
On Saturday, I began working on two chimneys on this house. The house is being removed from this site and transported by barge, to a new home on a small island.
......
It took lots of preparation, just to access the roof safely. My tallest ladder reached the base of the round roof. From there, a path was built, using 2x4s.  The Cedar roof is coated in lichens and is very slippery this time of year. Almost two hours elapsed from when I first arrived until I was able to remove the first brick. It took that long to get the ladder up and secure, to build my walkway and to attach the safety line.

The chimney doesn't look too large in the photo, but it was approximately 40 inches square and double walled for the first 8 feet. It was a huge relief when it transitioned to single wall inside the attic. After carving out an entry so that I could sit on the chimney, I dug it down a few layers below seating level, then switched sides,  to sit in the lower area and continue mining. The switch happened about 10 times. A central rib of bricks created two flues and prevented me from falling into the huge hole. Each flue was about 12x24, a good size for dangling legs. My pants got covered in soot, since they were inside the chimney for 2 hours.

About 800 bricks were thrown across the roof, to land in the back yard.  None fell short, and none bounced back to damage lower windows. I alternate arms and throw many with the rotating style of a discus thrower. This allows the power to come from my torso and give the arms a rest.

 The wind was very strong and it rained during this process. The wind blew against the direction of throw,  so that every little bit of sand and dust blew back toward me. As usual,  I wore my full face asbestos mask which protected my face and eyes from the wind and blowing sand. The ocean was really rocking, with water being sent 20 feet into the air as waves crashed on the rocks. In order to meet the barging schedule,  which is relies on a high tide in a shallow bay, we couldn't wait for nice weather.

The smaller chimney was also removed. It was made of solid 6x6x8 concrete block with a ruberized coating. Some blocks took 5 strikes with a sledgehammer to loosen them. Once below roofline, I knocked out much of the base, which allowed me to release some large slabs of up to 20 blocks at a time. This was done from the side, while on the ladder. The base of the ladder was protected from the big slabs by piles of debris, stacked 2 feet high. The heaviest ones would top 300 lb. I'm pretty good at directing the fall of these things, but once in motion, there no turning back. It's important to eliminate wood waste from areas where concrete slabs are falling. The force could launch scraps 50 feet into the air.
20151027_102737.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151027_102737.jpg]
20151101_121018.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151101_121018.jpg]
20151101_121038.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151101_121038.jpg]
20151031_181838.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151031_181838.jpg]
View from where I sit.
20151031_181855.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151031_181855.jpg]
Calmer weather, later that day.
20151103_120209.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151103_120209.jpg]
This house is in great condition throughout.
IMG_3264.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_3264.jpg]
A neighbor sent the last two, to my phone.
IMG_2788.jpg
[Thumbnail for IMG_2788.jpg]
It was good to get off of the slippery slope and onto something very solid.
 
pollinator
Posts: 939
Location: Federal Way, WA - Western Washington (Zone 8 - temperate maritime)
90
8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I really enjoyed 'watching' how you did this, Dale. Your safety line interests me... how/what did you attach it to? (I could do a google search, but you're the pro ;) I tied one to an apple tree and then threw it over the peak to the other side of the roof where I was working on de-mossing.
 
Dale Hodgins
Posts: 9002
Location: Victoria British Columbia-Canada
707
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
It was necessary for me to straddle the peak of the roof,  so I had to be attached by a roof mount. It's clearly visible in my third posting on this thread, about tearing down a different house.

https://permies.com/t/50898/natural-building/Dale-Garbage-House-demolition-salvage

 The most awkward thing that I did on this house, was when I nailed plywood over the big hole left by the chimney. One edge had to be nailed on well, and then I supported my weight on the sharp top edge, while reaching across the gap to drive in the remaining nails. It was raining hard, so I had very little grip. I always get the nails started into the sheeting,  before embarking on something like this.

 Sitting on the peak of the roof, was like sitting on a very slippery horse, with a pointed saddle poking at my butt. My thighs were burning.
 
nancy sutton
pollinator
Posts: 939
Location: Federal Way, WA - Western Washington (Zone 8 - temperate maritime)
90
8
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Ah, the roof cleat for the safety rope.. thx ;)
 
Dale Hodgins
Posts: 9002
Location: Victoria British Columbia-Canada
707
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I took an important shortcut on a chimney today. After tearing down everything above roofline and in the attic, I could see that this one was a good candidate for dropping through the floor, all in one go. There was plenty of clearance so that the bricks would not catch on the floor or wall framing.

 I used the sledgehammer to bash out the bottom foot of the chimney. As the final blow struck, I fled the area, in order to avoid being struck by bricks or broken flue material. They can go 10 feet laterally, as the chimney collapses.

 This saved a huge amount of time and I was able to avoid doing any damage, to the kitchen wall and floor. A plume of dust accompanied the thunderous sound of success. Trumpets blew and angels sang.
.......
 If you're not quite experienced, never try this. This could not be done, if there were a fireplace or any other heavy materials which could hang up on the floors as the material descends. Structural damage would occur,  if a chimney in motion where to hang up and come to a sudden stop within the cavity.
20151114_153300.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151114_153300.jpg]
Bricks were mined down to one foot below the attic.
20151114_152929.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151114_152929.jpg]
20151114_161358.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151114_161358.jpg]
Almost ready for the final blow. This is the base. About 15 feet of chimney rest on the narrow plinth.
20151115_150122.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151115_150122.jpg]
Sweet success.
20151115_145531.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151115_145531.jpg]
No damage, and no mess to clean up. Normally, I would protect the floor with carpet scraps around the chimney and along the wheelbarrow route to the outdoors.
 
Dale Hodgins
Posts: 9002
Location: Victoria British Columbia-Canada
707
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
These chimneys were on a really big house.
.......
I wrote this and then forgot to post.

Today I'm bashing down some chimneys which contain clinker brick.

 I'm wearing properly adjusted fall arrest gear. And as always,  I'm wearing a full face asbestos mask.

 My job is to simply bring them below roof line,  where the contractor feels safe doing remainder himself. I'm taking a bit of a gamble on this one.
.......
This one didn't turn out so well. After being very careful to avoid damage, none of the bricks sold.
20150828_162422.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20150828_162422.jpg]
20150828_162418.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20150828_162418.jpg]
20150828_162414.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20150828_162414.jpg]
20150828_154502.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20150828_154502.jpg]
knobby bricks used to be very popular.
20150829_161149.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20150829_161149.jpg]
A mattress prevented breakage. When none sold, they all went for fill.😢
 
Dale Hodgins
Posts: 9002
Location: Victoria British Columbia-Canada
707
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Tomorrow's job is another big house with difficult access. I will get there from a second storey window. Fall arrest gear will be used. I priced it with the assumption that the bricks won't sell. If some do sell, that will be a bonus.
20151203_110937.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151203_110937.jpg]
20151203_110458.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151203_110458.jpg]
20151203_105555.jpg
[Thumbnail for 20151203_105555.jpg]
The deer was resting on the lawn. I walked around the house, while looking up. We were both startled when I got a few feet from him. Lucky he wasn't a bear, or a big hole in the ground.
 
Whoever got anywhere by being normal? Just ask this exceptional tiny ad:
Unlock Free Wood Plans! Download free projects and create unique pieces now!
https:/the-art-of-regenerative-wood-working/
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic