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I have a lot of joint and connective tissue pain, including a condition of annoying benign tumors which form in connective tissue and hurt. I'm an artist by trade and I have a lot of hand pain. Can you recommend some foods and/or herbs to try to treat these painful problems? Sometimes my whole body hurts so much it is difficult to get out of bed. I think this might be a wheat sensitivity, but I'm worried I might just be jumping on the "wheat is evil" bandwagon.

Thank you for any suggestions!
 
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Although it's only a single data-point and not much more than that, my sister went from dairy + wheat standard diet to vegan, with high reduction of wheat, although still occasionally takes in gluten via "seitan". All milk consumption is non-dairy. Since the transition was made at the same time for both items, she can't say for sure what was the main factor, but her back and joint problems are far reduced (age ~50) from the previous 30 years.
 
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Check out recipes for tumeric smoothies, tea, or paste ( golden milk)...also, arnica...ginger...
 
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Thank you for that input. I think I should change only one variable at a time - to start I am going to try reducing wheat drastically and see if there's a change. It seems to me when I reduced wheat before, that I felt better, but, it is hard for me to be sure because I didn't take any notes or document changes in any way.

 
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I think this might be a wheat sensitivity, but I'm worried I might just be jumping on the "wheat is evil" bandwagon.
might be worth dropping the wheat for a couple weeks to see what happens.

Devil's Club cambium tea and poultice were used traditionally for rheumatism, arthritis, among many other things. Some Permie from the Pacific Northwest of the U.S. maybe could send you some.
 
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You could certainly try eliminating wheat and see if you have any improvement.

I do seem to have a problem with wheat and find my joints noticeably more inflamed if I have significant amounts.

Other interventions I've found helpful include curcumin and high-dose MSM (up to 6g daily).
 
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I am of the mindset that like heals like... So if I were having joint pain, I'd add more joints to my diet: pigs feet broth, cartilage from chicken carcases, pickled pigs feet, etc...

Also, since the joints are lubricated, I'd add more water to my diet, and/or reduce things like caffeine and diuretics that are antagonistic to water.

Then the third thing would be an anti-inflammatory diet, in case the joints hurt because tissues are swelling and pushing the joints out of place. Wheat, and dairy seem to me to be the most common acute inflammatory foods. Soybean oil and canola oils seem to be the most common chronic inflammatory foods. In my own life, i replaced soybean and canola oil with coconut oil. And added lots of turmeric, ginger, and garlic.
 
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Soybean oil and canola oils seem to be the most common chronic inflammatory foods.
Though not nearly as common, Sesame Seeds, particularly the paste (tahini) or the oil is a very inflammatory food as well.
In my own life, i replaced soybean and canola oil with coconut oil. And added lots of turmeric, ginger, and garlic.
I highly recommend the coconut oil, as well as high quality organic virgin olive oil.

Some have problems with the nightshade family for joint problems.
 
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Thank you for these suggestions.

 
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I don't think wheat is evil, but how we grow and prepare it three days may be.

I bet once you get your inflammation under control, you could eat organic sourdough. But until then, staying away from it is probably prudent.

 
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Turmeric....I see someone else suggested it......I grow it and give it away to anyone with pains.....It is an amazing root. It is anitinflamatory, antibiotic and anti depression.....If you can get fresh root and grate into a smoothie, all your food or cut thin slices or grate it & boil it for 5 or 10 min. It makes a tasty tea.....
I have many plates & screws in my body that cause pain at night so I drink the tea for that. A friend was depressed for some time & didn't want to take pharmacy drugs so I gave him turmeric & he made tea every few days (it keeps for a few days or you can keep some in the fridge) and when I saw him a few weeks later he Was smiling again! Powdered turmeric is great as well....with the powdered it will be 2000 X's more effective if taken with black pepper.
Look at this site. turmericforhealth.com
 
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Thank you!
 
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Have you thought about chewing willow bark . Its natural asprin
 
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I've thought about it, but have no willows.

 
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They are among the easyest thing to grow ever I promise . You stick a live twig in the ground 2/3s its length . Anywhere dampish any time
er Thats it
Steal ...... er ..find some

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We rarely have areas that are dampish except in wet years!
 
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I've been trying to treat morning lower back pain with supplements instead of popping ibuprofen and this combination along with daily yoga has really helped: turmeric with black pepper extract, ceylon cinnamon, evening primrose oil, glucosamine + chondroitin, and reishi mushroom. I also gave up wheat and drink a shot of homemade kombucha everyday that is fermented with fresh ginger. 
 
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In my experience, if you want to get rid of bodily pain, then one needs to remove the acidic cellular waste from the body that is causing said pain.

If you're already vegan, "an assumption because this post in the vegan forum", then you may find it quite easy to adopt a detoxifying diet for a couple of months which will remove those acids.

Dr. Morse would be my suggestion for someone to study to learn about detoxifying the body. He's helped hundreds of thousands of people achieve health via detoxification.
 
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Gotu Kola is the herb against athritis, I don't know if it grows in your climate but I am sure that it takes 5 under zero (in Celsius).
Otherwise the bone broths are really good for you - vegans often feel very good after starting being vegan but develop severe deficiencies later.
You might have to have some blood tests done to find out what's wrong.
 
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