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Kathy Michaels
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Hi, we are new here, so hope we're doing it right!
We are in Mallorca, looking for heirloom/organic trees of the exotic kind, not an easy thing to get here in Europe..does anybody know of any sources?
Thanks!
 
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Med. garden society This site might have some helpful information for nurseries in your area.

What types of trees are you looking for? What is exotic in one country might not be so in another, this is something you didn't put in your post and it would help so I, and others, can give better advice and direct you to sources.
 
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Hi Byrant,

Thanks very much for the link, we'll be visiting the orchard at Soller, hopefully we can get our citrus fruit trees from there
As for the variety of trees we are after, they are as follows:

grape vines
cacis
pistaccio
walnut
passion fruit
star fruit
grapefruit
chestnut
papaya
mango
banana
dragon fruit
soursop
avocado
guava
lychee
passiflora
pomegranate



We are also looking for heirloom maple trees, wisteria and bouganvilea.

Thanks again
 
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This link is to a place I've used for a few trees (it is in the States but it might be a useful link for you). Backyard fruit

That is an excellent list, some of those we are growing and some we simply are not in the right climate to grow.
I've still got to build a greenhouse and that will allow me to grow some citrus here in Arkansas.

There is a place in the USA called Fast Growing Trees that might have some of what you are needing. I am sorry that I don't have their web address but it should be an easy search.
 
Kathy Michaels
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Thanks Byrant,
I checked out the backyard, but they don't appear to be organic or heirloom. Also, I don't think it's legal to import plants from the USA to Europe, not sure how it works though and I'm looking into it. I think customs would confiscate them..
 
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Very true The EU tends to not allow imports of living things, that's why I mentioned that company was US.
I'll see if I can find some places in Spain so you have no worries about not being able to get them.

Here we even have some items that can't be moved from one state to another state for one reason or another.
Do you know if you can import from England, France or Germany? Those three countries have some great Nurseries with lots of varieties.
I tried to get some grape vines from a friend in France but US said no way (a real bother to me since I could have gotten some great wine grape vines).

I do understand the why of countries not allowing imported plants, When I was with the USDA we watched out for many plants and even fruits that could introduce all sorts of nasty insects and diseases.
 
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Jardineria y Riego Javier Ruiz Avenida Canillejas A Vicalvaro, 123, 28022, Madrid (Madrid)
Phone: +34 915 099 104

IMENERGY POWER PLANTS CALLE PLAYA DE RIAZOR, 12 - PISO 3, 28042, Madrid (Madrid)

TSEKOWSKY PLANTS CALLE VALVERDE, 5 - PISO 3 C, 28004, Madrid (Madrid)
Phone: +34 910 116 089

Saga Verde Calle Marques de Pico Velasco, 54, 28027, Madrid (Madrid)
Phone: +34 914 071 302

DJT PLANTS SPAIN CALLE FORTUNY, 37 - PISO 2 DR, 28010, Madrid (Madrid)

Viveros Toni

Those should give you a pretty good start.
 
Kathy Michaels
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Thanks Byrant,
I will check them out. I do know Viveros, however, and I know they are not organic...
 
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l am not familiar with the "organic" label requirements in Spain but here in the USA, it means you can only use chemicals that are on the USDA list of approved chemicals.
What this means is; even though it is labeled organic it might not be what I consider organic (my definition is vastly different than the Government's definition).
My definition is only natural occurring additives may be used, no "cides" of any kind allowed and nutrients come from animal and vegetable decaying into compost or emulsions that are then watered into the soil.
Our soil is now rife with mycorrhizae, good microbes and decayed manures/ plant matter. We use DE and for water wetting agents we use only those the earth mother provides. The harshest material we use is borax, a natural termite and ant deterrent.

That said, I do know that any tree I plant will never see any chemicals from then on.
Most chemicals used on trees are either to add nutrients (fertilizers) or to prevent infestation (insecticides) both of which do not have really long lasting effects once the tree is planted and the artificial additives are no longer used on it.

Here is something very interesting, Spain apparently does not have an Organic certification Organic Bio shows Portugal and all the other countries that have a certification program / Label and Spain is not listed.
 
Kathy Michaels
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Hi Byrant,
Yes, that's why we buy heirloom from reputable people, for example, realseeds and the Agroforestry research trust etc. We hunt far and wide for what we want. So far we've done well, we have 100s of seeds, and a lot of trees and bushes but we are missing the tropicals. The law regarding organic is unclear here in Spain, but we live in Mallorca, which at least is GMO free, and that's great And yes, we can import from anywhere in Europe..

http://en.biomanantial.com/the-island-mallorca-declared-free-transgenics-a-702-en.html
 
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Regulations for Organic food and products are europe wide and an over view can be found in english here http://www.ifoam-eu.org/en/what-we-do/organic-regulations
I would suggest suppliers in the South of France would be able to supply many of the trees you are looking for I may have time next week to post some suppliers.

David
 
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Thanks for the link David, I will read that soon. As for the trees, that would be fantastic, in the meantime I will do a google search again in France. Have a great weekend
 
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