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Tyler Ludens
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I'm hoping/planning to be able to share the land here at some point in the future (5-10 years from now) to people who will want to live and grow here, and possibly be gifted the land (we don't plan to ever sell it).

Could people please list out what they would want/need in a land share? What amenities you would consider the basics, and what would be bonuses?

I need to start now or soon to prepare the place for more people.

 
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Hi Tyler...... We are a couple of experienced homesteaders looking for folks that want to share their property with us... and we have shared property with other folks for the past twenty years... so we have experience on both sides (sharing our land and others sharing their land with us)..... so I feel qualified to respond to your questions.......That said, I would say that it all depends on the competence or skills that the new people joining you have....... Are they able to build their own small home in one summer?? or do they need you to provide a small shelter for them...? would they be willing to put up a few big tarps and have an outdoor kitchen and sleeping/living area while they build ( about 6 months).......... If you want to prepare for their future arrival, you could now decide what are of the land would you be comfortable having them live and garden.... and then establish water there,( such as a freeze proof hydrant...... o they could have a good water source set up for them to start with. Then dig a small deep hole and build an out house over it ... or build a composting toilet using red wiggler earthworms.... (don't buy/install the worms until they arrive and it is going to receive regular deposits........) Then if you felt inspired and had the money and time... you could fence about an acre with woven wire field fence... and seed it with a good pasture mix for your area and... (perhaps even water It if necessary)..... and get an area going in pasture for their future animals or garden and/or orchard...etc.... What I am suggesting is build basic infrastructure for the future land partners... in a chosen area.......... that would make it easier for them to settle in and get started living/ growing and building there....
If it was someone with homesteading and gardening/building experience........and they had money saved to build/ develop with... then probably just a good source of clean/untreated water........ If they had No or little experience and little or No money.......... then they may be more of a burden and less of an asset..... IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO USE YOUR DECERNMENT........... when inviting people to live intimately on your land with you..........long term.
I would think that you two are providing them with a free piece of land to build their homestead on and basically inherit ...... from you as you get older. Perhaps the agreements between you could include...... that they pay the property taxes and grow food for you and your husband... when you are no longer able or want to do these things for yourselves.... It is easy to say you do not want to sell the property in the future...............BUT there could be the unexpected cost of medical/hospital/operations...........long term hospice care etc... that would require you to come up with large sums of money...... forcing you to sell the property... anyway .. lots to think about...
 
Tyler Ludens
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Thank you, Sunny, those are helpful ideas.

 
Tyler Ludens
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Hoping to get a few more opinions on this topic...
 
Sam Micheletti
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I'm new to this whole concept, but as someone just looking for space to live in a simple place-like a yurt- I would expect to have sites with reasonable access to fresh water, waste management, and electric, at least as a basis for using while more robust or dedicated systems are planned and installed. Or at least a plan for those basics. Even if one plans to live off the grid, access to electric nearby can be a big help. Even if you can't provide the infrastructure, having it planned would be a good start.
 
Brie Robb
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When I  saw the suggestion to have "them" pay your property taxes, My body clenched inside, if someone else has proof that they have paid the taxes, for a long enough period of time, they can take full ownership/  claim of the property. 

Always have a written agreement, they pay rent, then that money can pay the taxes.

The written agreement must follow your state law, in Oklahoma, I cannot rent a building for use as a human residence which does not have water, sewer, and electric.. I can rent or lease land for agricultural use. The law is very different for non- residential property.

Our lease agreement is based on a hunting lease. So, I would urge anyone thinking of such an arrangement,  from either side, to study your local laws and protect yourselves.

As far as I  know,  you can designate how the "rent" money is expected to be used.
Such as payment of taxes and for purchase of fence,  purchase of water management equipment, etc.

We are also  thinking of placing our land into a trust with bylaws to protect us as we get older. 
 
Tyler Ludens
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Thank you for the input.  We will definitely have water, electricity, and at least a simple composting toilet available.  Beyond that, time will tell.

And no, definitely not going to have anyone but us pay the taxes! 
 
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