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 I am about to start a several month trip around China and am looking for any Permaculture sites I can find around to check out.  I have been searching online, but have not found a lot.  

 So far I know of the one in the Loess Plateau that had a documentary made about it, but I can't find any specific sites, just an entire region.

 Hangzhou has a small farm, that I've seen on Permaculutre News.  

 Near Guilin also has one.  

 There are several to check out in Hong Kong, but not a lot around beyond that that I'm seeing.

Any ideas or info everyone?  I have looked into the fish/rice farming too, and am looking for good sites to see this.  I also remember seeing a NYTimes article I believe about a farm outside of Bejing starting the big push towards organic farming, which isn't exactly Permaculture, but it's the closest in the ballpark.

I still have a month before I leave, so if anyone has any recommendations I can put it in my route.  
 
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Hi Ryan.

I'm about to start on a similar trip. I would love to visit the Loess plateau and see what`s going on. I have no specific information about where to go, but if I don`t find any information, I might take the generalist approach and just go there and see what I find. I speak and read Chinese fluently, so it should be possible to talk to people there and find out what`s going on. I also hope to volunteer at the Hangzhou farm.
 
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I've been researching Seaberry and it seems alot of breeding work has been done on thornless varieties over in Asia. Someone who can read Chinese could do a great service to the community by getting some of that distributed. I'd be willing to help on the distribution end and could help work at navigating the bureaucracy...
 
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I can read Chinese. I just did a trip to China and Southeast Asia. I came across a cold hardy eggplant that was producing with snow on the ground (I'll get around to uploading the pictures some other time). There are also persimmon and pomegranate trees that have survived serious droughts with little to know water over there. In the 70's in Shanxi province they had at least one year with almost no measurable precipitation
 
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Very useful skill! It seems that selling small amounts of seaberry seed is all the rage on ebay and amazon, but you never know what you are going to get.  I thought I would check Alibaba, but that is pretty vague also.  I came across this and others like it; Hunjin, Chengse, and Chuyi mentioned. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/311260135_An_elite_variety_of_berry_hippophae_rhamnoides_'Hunjin'  I don't know if there is anyway to find out if there are some landrace varieties or get some seeds from the thornless ones... I'd love to see Hippophae developed into a better agroforestry crop over here.
lots to be gleaned also at http://www.sanddorn.net/index.html - much of that site is in German.
 
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If you find anything in German, Spanish, or Chinese send it my way. I may have to look up some of the specific vocabulary used but I ought to be able to translate it. I'll try and do a some research in Chinese about thornless seaberry
 
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