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Rocket has to come back !!!

 
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The main reason that I removed my rocket stove, was that I had too move the shed it was in....

Kinda hard to pick up a building and move it with a 3 or 4 tonne stove in it. . .

The shed has been moved, but I still want too have heat for the winter, so the rocket is coming back !

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Trying to figure out how to build a rocket stove, that would heat nicely, but take up as little room as possible.
Then realized, that you can have the "J" tube, which burns nice and hot - without the mass - good for instant heat.
I reduced the amount of perelit insulation from 6 inches - down to 2 or 3 inches all the way around.  (3.5 inches on the bottom of the heater).

Then just for the hell of it, I put it on a heavy duty steel frame - with wheels.  

At first, I tried to limit the length too 1 concrete slab, but I needed extra room for the manifold.... so I added another 12 inch pad at the back.

Riser and base.
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Burn chamber is the same size and shape as the first one, just alot less insulation around it, so hopefully, after a 2 or 3 hour burn, it will start too radiate heat, and help heat the space around it.
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The tricky part, is too set up the chimney so it wont break off....

At first, I tried having it point up vertical , but it kept leaning over . . .  so, I laid it flat, on the body of the stove, and put a bunch of bricks on top.
Should hold it in place.

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So, after building and test burning the heater (all on the same day) it did not surprise me that it did not get over 150 degrees F.  Since I added 8 small pails of water - too soften the materials.  All that moisture is keeping the stove cold.  I have not hooked up the chimney yet, so that would probably not help things either....
Once the moisture is gone, it should start heating up.

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I really wanted to get this rocket heater done, since the day that I built it was 20 degrees with a humidex of 29.  The very next day it dropped down to 12 degrees.
I would much rather work with mud and wet hands in the warm weather.

That being said, there are a few items that I am going to have too change on this heater....

1. outer bricks do not have any mortar on them - kinda floppy.  Will have top let it dry, and either wait for a warmer day or heat up the shed nice and warm - pull them off, and mortar them together.

2. not much heat riser support - so I may have too remove the bricks at the bottom of the barrel, (the ones that are turned on their side) and lay them flat - more solid and secure, and easier to mortar the joints.

That's it for a while, keep ya updated !
 
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Here is an update on the wheelie rocket . . .

I went to hook up the chimney, and as soon as I touched the thing, the stove and the chimney separated. ...  bummer.

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After thinking about it for five minutes, I realized, that if you want a good sturdy stove, you have to start with a good solid base....

Too that end, I have started removing the outer bricks, and mortaring them into place - to make a solid frame too work from.

Also, while I have the heat riser off, I am going to be laying the bricks flat - instead of being on there sides, and very unstable and tippy.

Unfortunately, the weather has turned colder, so we will see how it goes . ...
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great idea! like the mobile aspect.
 
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After taking apart the hastily built mess that I made, I took my time, and mortared all the surrounding bricks with high temp brick mortar.

After that, it was just a matter of building up the surround for the manifold, and topping if off with a slab of concrete.

Added a few more bricks too weight down the chimney placement ... so it wont move too much, and did a small test burn.  Warmed up the stove, to help it dry out, and checked for leaks.
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After a week of sitting in the shop, it was time for a full on burn.

No leaks, and very good draft.  6 inch pipe thruout the build.  The one thing I did differently is too make the entrance to the burn tunnel .5 of an inch smaller in one direction.  That increases the draft in that area, and I can now load up the burn chamber as full as it will go, and I have no smoke back or back burn issues at all (so far).

I also find, that the 4 or 5 feet of bare chimney pipe is losing almost as much heat as the mass was absorbing.  I know that I cannot tell what the inner temperature is on the stove pipe, since it now gets hot enough to melt the regular stove thermometer I was using, but the new chimney thermometer I picked up, is telling me that it does not get over 200 F . I do notice a difference at the top of the chimney outside, as there is no smoke, no steam, nothing to see - as if the stove is not even running.

On the plus side, with that large slab of concrete covering the manifold, my coffee stays hot ...

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I had to urethane some window frames out in the shop.
So, I went out at noon, and fired up the portable rocket heater.
At noon, it was 28 degrees F.  By 1 pm, it was 40 degrees F.  By 3 pm, it was around 65 degrees in the shop, and I started urethaning the wood.
After that, it quickly reached 72 degrees, and I had too open the door too cool off.

In total, I used 8 pieces of 1.5 x 1.5 x 36 inches plus 2 - 2x4s - 48 inches long - as a test for back burn - there was none.

It works.

Edit.  After burning the stove full out for most of the afternoon ( 5 hours or so ), the outer bricks around the fire box ( the ones with 2 inches of perelite inside ) only reached 90 degrees F.  or so.  Perelite is a REALLY GOOD insulator.
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After repeated firings, the rocket heater is now all dried out and burning nicely.
Since I have made the burn chamber .5 of an inch smaller in one direction - there is no smoke back, or puffing at all.

Loading the stove up with cardboard, gets the stove really hot !

This is why I warn people, when building one of these stoves, to leave plenty of room around the barrel.
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Have you actually tried to get this thing on a dolly--or whatever it was you planned to move it with? What do you think the final weight is?
 
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It has been a while since i have logged onto this site, been busy getting ready to build my Hobbit Home.

Daves Hobbit Home Build  - on facebook - @undergroundandlovinit
As for moving the portable rocket stove around....  I have demolished a couple of my buildings to make room for the new house, and the work shop has become a storage shop - so the rocket stove heater has been moved into a corner and buried with "stuff" ..... and yes, as expected - it is difficult to move, but it does move ...😁 Heavier, wider wheels with a larger weight capacity would definitely help with that.
 
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