T. Pierce wrote:there is a true breeder then there is someone who just throws a male species in with a female species and calls it breeding.
This is why I differentiated between what we do with poultry (shotgun breeding) and what we do with pigs and dogs (very careful selective breeding). With the chickens the only selective force is those who survive well in our northern climate with little care and aren't too loud. With the chickens I'm just looking for organic pest control with the side benefit of eggs and meat. With the dogs and pigs I have very specific, and very different, goals. There is a place for each.
T. Pierce wrote:
there is a true breeder then there is someone who just throws a male species in with a female species and calls it breeding.
a true breeder can and will use inbreeding, line breeding and on rare occasions outbreeding to carry on a line. but even outbreeding is usually with in a recognized breed or species. so the gene pool is still somewhat narrowed so that the offspring comes out somewhat predictable. a true breeder is the one that you can count on to have the good lines we can always count on.
I dont think you understand. heres the dictionary term from wikipedia=" Breeding back can be described as either a natural or a human attempt to assemble or re-assemble the genes of an extinct species, subspecies or domesticated breed, which may still be present in the larger gene pool of the overall species or those of multiple interbreedable species.
Breeding back is controversial, especially claims that an extinct animal has been recreated. Similar appearance (phenotypical reconstruction) does not assure similar behavior or biology. For some of the animals that are being bred back, questions remain about the ecological niche, hardiness, and disease resistance of the original creatures. "
In another string there was talk on a chicken breed and what you want of it in a permaculture ecology. I guess my point would be that species could be bred back to a more 'basic' version of a species and then bred for the traits permies want. This intead of working with agrarian left- over varieties and working from there.