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Chestnut nursery in Sub irrigated planters?

 
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I am bettween cars.
Walking has led me to treasure.
I found a trifoliate orange tree!
Later, I found a Chestnut tree,and a oak with nice sized acorns.

So I'm thinking about propagation.
In the past I've gotten so busy with mundane life, my starts have suffered.
This year I propagated some grape vines in Sub irrigated planters,and it worked great.

I'm planning on starting more of everything over the winter, and I'm wondering if a SIP would work for seeds that need stratification,such as chestnuts.

I don't have room for Chestnut trees, but it seems likely that  the saplings would be excellent trade goods.
Same for the Oak.
The trifoliate too,and  I want them for myself as well.
I would probably start with many seeds in each bucket,and thin them progressively.

My cuttings get a plastic bag over them to promote respiration,but I think window screen would be better for the seed starts.
I don't want to feed the squirrels,and I don't want premature sprouts to die in a late spring frost.
Containers do warm up early anyway, so maybe a clear plate or bowl would help.
Or maybe I should burry the buckets...

Anyway, tree people, do you think chestnuts will sprout in these circumstances?
What about pears,apples, , trifoliate orange etc?
 
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Trifoliate orange seeds sprout easily and rapidly IF you keep them fresh (ie, not dried out, they do not like to dry out.) Keep the fruit in a baggie in your fridge all winter if you must and watch it grow black and moldy; the seeds will be fine when it’s warm enough in your nursery bucket.  But the seedlings are very tender; I have sprouted hundreds, and lost most in the first or second Oklahoma winter. (They CAN be hardy here but getting one to a hardy age and condition is a non-trivial project.) I would not winter-sow or plant outdoors until soil temps were warm. Indoors in warm soil under bright light, space permitting? Sure!

Help us understand your sub-irrigated buckets: do you mean an internal water reservoir under a screen within the bucket, or is the bucket sat in a larger tub of water? (I use the latter concept to get small container plants through 100-degree OK summers.)
 
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Yeah the planters would have an internal reservoir.
I take a 3 gallon icing bucket,cut about 2" off the top and  cut slots in the bottom edge.
Slots are used instead of drilling a bunch of holes.
Slots are quickly cut, and hold back the growing medium while letting water flow through.
I invert the modified 3 gallon bucket and drop it into a 5 gallon bucket.
This is the reservoir.
The space between the buckets is filled with peat and the wicks water up into the root zone
Slots cut in the side of the 5 gallon bucket become the overflow.
No fill tube is used,I just top water,a half bucket or until the water exits the overflow slots.

So, it sounds like I shouldn't count on this working outside .
I have a basement, and I'm reskining a greenhouse,so I'll try some in each of those places, and the trifoliate might get house plant status for a few years,which I don't love, but should be worth it.
 
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