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part 2 of a 2 part podcast

Sleaze and anti-sleaze

Paul continues the discussion accompanied by Samantha.

Paul compares Boot camp with homesteading, especially taking on a homestead for the first time.  Rather than spending over 100 hours a week and not getting all your projects done, in boot camp you do 40 hours, and gain spoons rather than using a ton.  Boot camp has a powerful anti-sleaze effect.

Setting up a homestead from scratch or taking over a non functional property creates a lot of self-imposed obligation which sucks spoons, much like sleaze does.

Samantha says permies is a community of individuals.  There's still room for independence but also space for collaboration.  

Paul says that the sleaze of people working and gaming the system is a problem in the USA as everyone wants to tell people what to do and how to advance.  However with a humble home and a large garden you can step back from all that.  Boot camp is a powerful anti-sleaze force - no need for a phone or a car or other things which are increasingly sleazy.

Paul wants to get the gardening gardeners program fully sorted out, so that people setting up a homestead for example could run such a scheme and reduce their obligations and increase their spoons.  Without a good, proven framework it's risky.  As Samantha comments this is what's great about SKIP, people can demonstrate their abilities and homesteaders can see that.

Paul relates something of Mike Oehler's issues with interns: he had 100 interns and they were all no good.  Paul suspects that the indoctrination that you have to be a fierce independent was part of the issue.

Paul finishes by reflecting on the last 20 years running permies.

Relevant Threads

Spoon theory - Wikipedia

Podcast 717 - Gardening Gardeners - Part 1,  Part 2

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Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
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Banter Couch
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part 1 of a 2 part podcast

Sleaze and anti-sleaze

Paul is with Samantha in a zero-prep podcast.

Paul talks about a book which he says should be titled "how to live your life as a level 9 douchebag", which he feels sums up a lot of what happens these days.  This last week there's been an unprecedented amount of sleaze.  

Paul used to donate blood when he was young, but they gave him a health warning which turned out to be a false positive, which put him off it.  Later, he decided to go donate blood again.  He had to fill in a long form but apparently the system had him flagged due to the previous issue so he wasn't allowed to donate.  After spending 45 minutes on the phone he thought it was cleared up, so he went back to the red cross but they still wouldn't accept his blood.  Nobody seemed to care enough to fix it.  

Now he donates blood in Couer d'Alene, where he's not flagged by the system. However, recently their online system refused to let him make an appointment, and it seems it wasn't easily possible to fix that, nor could he talk to an actual person to discuss it.  The sleaze is evident in the poor quality of the systems, and the lack of interest shown by the employees.

Paul hopes that permies does better than the blood donor people to handle issues that may arise.  He feels that at least in the USA it's at least four times sleazier than 10 years ago.  People seem to only care about themselves rather than doing their job.  In this way permies staff are different as they do care.

Paul brings up the topic of spoon theory.  Being exposed to sleaze eats spoons.

He mentions something Des said when he was commander of the boot camp:  In his life before, everything was done from a position of scarcity; by comparison, everything at the boot camp is from a position of abundance.  

Paul relates a recent experience where Harry and Stephen were fixing something in Allerton abbey, and the whole way it was done seemed to generate spoons.

Relevant Threads

Spoon theory - Wikipedia

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Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
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Grow Our Own Food

Continuing the discussion about growing food.

Miranda describes her property; she has about 2½ acres with perennial food crops, out of about 10 acres total.

Alexandra describes her area where most places 20 years ago had fruit trees, but now almost all have been cut down - people can't be bothered with them.  She doesn't know how to get people interested again.

Paul talks about polyculture, which is what he's aiming for.  In his view each plant species helps to feed the others.  He likes a more chaotic aesthetic.  However that's not a popular thing among "gardeners" who want everything in rows with no weeds.  

Alexandra says she has issues growing carrots in a chaotic environment as they don't compete well, but others find that they grow well.

M mentions that where she lives Parsnips grow wild and invade everyone's garden.

Paul wants to broaden the automatic backyard food pump; the idea of which is to have food all year round.  However it's challenging to convince people that it works.  

Miranda comments that where she lives, the ground can be frozen solid so it's impossible to dig in the winter.  Paul says although sunchokes don't keep too well there are ways to store them for a while.  You can also use hot water to thaw the ground to be able to dig the sunchokes.

Alexandra dries a lot of her produce.  Paul likes dried food, as it gives more variety in addition to preserving the food.  There's also the rocket assist food drier which dries food about four times as fast.

They move on to foraging.  Paul mentions huckleberries that are popular in Montana, but acknowledges that there are multiple fruits called that.  M maybe gets 70% of her food from foraging during the growing season.

Relevant Threads

Hugelkultur forum

Automatic Backyard Food Pump
Build a J-Tube Style Season Extender in a Hugelkultur - PEP BB rocket.wood.hugel
3D Plans - Solar Food Dehydrator with Rocket Boost

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Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
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part 1 of a 2 part podcast

Grow our own food.
Paul says at least 99% of people are convinced that growing your own food is too expensive and too much work.  In his experience though, it's possible to spend just a few dollars and to work only a few hours a week, and still grow hundreds of dollars worth of food.

Paul says much of the growing in Missoula is "gardening for someone else".  He introduces M who's from New England.  She thinks they have 30+ inches of rain.  Paul says that's about the same as Seattle, WA.  It's significantly more than Missoula.

Now more people arrive: Alexandra is from BC, Canada, where the climate is similar to Missoula.  Miranda is from Minnesota, zone 4B, again similar climate but probably a bit more rain.

Alexandra comments that it depends if you have costs for the land and for water, for example in her neighborhood, they put in water meters, but now everyone has cut down all the trees.  Paul comments that if you build enough quality soil you don't need so much watering.

Miranda uses hoop houses (poly tunnels) which extend the growing season by 4-6 weeks per year.  However that's another cost to factor in.  Miranda says the plastic on hers is now 6 years old and is starting to get a few holes.  Although the costs are high initially you can grow a lot of stuff in them.  Mostly she grows for farmers markets so she's growing more than just food for herself.

M mentions a video about using an RMH to extend the growing season.  Paul says this is an experiment to try heating the soil without using a greenhouse or tunnel, so you still get full sunlight.  It's called the rocket powered season extender but as yet it's not been fully tested.  Em thinks it might be good for starting seedlings.

Paul talks about the automatic backyard food pump - he wants plants with a large harvesting window.  Alexandra has a food forest approach which is quite similar in terms of what she grows.  She says what Paul is doing is more like foraging - Paul agrees, he's setting up plots which he can forage.  He's trying to push ideas which counter the "gardening is too expensive" problem.  

Alexandra and Miranda comment that there are issues when people try to grow food in urban environments for example such ground as there is is probably not viable.  Paul's point is that the advice from "experts" seems to end up costing a lot of money.  Basically, he wants people to do Hügelkuturs.  

Relevant Threads

Hugelkultur forum

Automatic Backyard Food Pump
Build a J-Tube Style Season Extender in a Hugelkultur - PEP BB rocket.wood.hugel

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Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
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part 3 of a 3 part podcast.

45 permaculture solutions.

33. Adobe or cob.  Not quite the same thing.  Adobe tends to be bricks, cob is usually a single lump.
34. Slipstraw.  Also not adobe.  clay/water/straw mix used to mold buildings.  Good insulation value.

35. STUN.  Strategic Total Utter Neglect - from Mark Shepard's restoration agriculture; zero care growies
36. Starting trees from seed.  Can be very successful - a bit of a lottery what you get, but mostly good.
37. Landrace gardening.  Joseph Lofthouse's technique for breeding plants that do well where you want them to grow.
38. Skiddable structures.  Buildings you can move around.  Cabins, outhouses, animal shelters etc.
39. Wavy deer fence.  Mike Haasl's design of wavy fence.  Deer don't jump it.

40. Haybox cooker.  Very effective for cooking big pots of certain foods.  Good in summer.
41. Automatic backyard food pump.  Three crops which grow easily and abundantly with low effort and a wide harvest window.
42. Chop and drop.  Unwanted plants become mulch wherever you cut them.  Low effort and free.
43. Brush piles.  Brush piles attract critters which help control pests which eat your growies.
44. Community living.  The biggest challenge in permaculture; communities without drama.
45. Farms vs gardens.  Farms and gardens require very different methods.  Gardens don't need to be flat!
46. Forest vs woodland.  Forests are made to maximize lumber output.  Woodland has diversity and grows loads of food.

Relevant Threads

Cob, daub, adobe, etc. What are all the natural "concretes" and what are they sourced from?
How to Make and Use Clay Slip

Mark Shepard on Yields, Getting Started and STUN
ten skiddable structures
19 skiddable structures documentary - 36 minutes
Wavy Deer Fence

Cook Grain with Rocket Stove and a Haybox Cooker
Automatic Backyard Food Pump
Build abundance with chop-and-drop

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Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
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part 2 of a 3 part podcast

45 permaculture solutions.

15. Willow feeder.  Possibly the best way to process your poop! (not a composting toilet!)
16. Dry outhouse.  Same process as the willow feeder, but feeds the trees directly.

17. Never buy chicken feed again.  Planting growies that chickens can self-harvest
18. Solar food dehydrator with rocket assist.  Super-effective food dryer, especially in fall.
19. Cool box.  Insulated cool box which works by running cool spring water through it.  Can be scaled up.

20. Berms and wind.  Create areas of shelter from the wind.  Can also reduce noise from such as roads.
21. Stealth ponds. Dig a pond, fill it with huge rocks.  Water whenever you need it.
22. Natural swimming pool.  Using a reed system to filter pool water instead of chemicals.
23. Paddock shift system.  Cycle livestock through several paddocks, stuff grows better and faster.

24. Mycelium insulation.  Fireproof high quality insulation from spent mycelium after harvesting mushrooms.
25. Sealing a pond without a liner.  Using clay to seal a pond by emulating pigs.
26. Junk pole fences.  Using small trees from forest thinning to make fences, instead of burning them

27. SKIP.  SKills to Inherit Property - Helping to find worthy people to inherit property.
28. Gert.  Gertitude vs farming.  Paul advocates a humble home and a large garden, not a farming mentality.
29. Cleaners you can eat.  People are getting sick from toxic gick in cleaners.
30. Dry stack.  Building dry stacked stone structures.
31. Berm shed.  1500 sq ft shed for $500.  
32. Roundwood timber framing.  Many roundwood projects at the lab.  No glue, no fasteners, just wood.

Relevant Threads

Low Tech Laboratory

72 Bricks to Build a Better World by Paul Wheaton

what is a willow feeder

tree bog vs. dry outhouse

3D Plans - Solar Food Dehydrator with Rocket Boost

Homegrown Mushroom Mycelium Insulation Panels

All about SKIP, PEP, Badges, BBs and More!
are there currently millions of permaculture millionaires? (the story of Gert)

berm sheds

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Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
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part 1 of a 3 part podcast

45 permaculture solutions.

Paul presents a revamped version of 45 permaculture solutions, without the original 45 minute time limit, in company with Samantha and Andreas.

1. Rocket mass heaters.  Built in 1-5 days for $100-2000, super cheap heat.
2. Rocket cooktop.  There are 3 at the lab.  Great for off-grid.
3. Rocket Oven.  An efficient solution for baked goods.  Movie: https://wood-oven.net/
4. Rocket Kiln.  Revolutionary wood fired kiln, cheap and clean to run.
5. Lorena.  Rocket stove where the pot fits in the top.  Ultra fast boiling: 5 gallon pot boils in 15 minutes.
6. Rocket water heater.  Best not pressurized due to explosion risk.  Heats up in minutes.

7. WOFATI.  See https://richsoil.com/wofati.jsp.
8. WOFATI.  Woodland Oehler Freaky-cheap Annualized Thermal Inertia.
9. Oehler structure.  The father of the WOFATI!  
10. Truly passive greenhouse.  Didn't freeze when it was 25°F below outside.  Zero energy input.

11. Humus well.  Extracting water from organic matter.
12. Sepp Holzer's spring terrace.  Produces 500 gallons of water per day.
13. Mulch pit.  Grey water processing system, water flows onto around 8ft deep of woodchip.  Willows absorb nutrients from it
14. Hügelkultur.  Essentially, soil on wood.  Done right it's amazing, done wrong it's not hügelkultur.

Relevant Threads

Low Tech Laboratory

72 Bricks to Build a Better World by Paul Wheaton

Rocket Mass Heaters forum

Harvest Clay and Make Pottery! (oh yeah, and the rocket kiln).
8-Inch Portable Modular Rocket Engine with Forge, Crucible, and Kiln Attachments

3d Plans - Rocket Cooktop with Lorena Option

Wofati and Earth Berm forum

Devious Experiments with a Truly Passive Greenhouse Movie as HD download

Humus Well from the 2023 PTJ

Hugelkultur forum

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Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
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part 3 of a 3 part podcast

Paul and Peter continue discussing RMHs and heating.

Paul describes the cob hat fitted to the 4 inch RMH in the Love Shack.  The Shack lost significant temperature overnight; leading to the modification.  Adding the cob hat above the barrel harvested a lot more heat.  However, the 4 inch RMH has other issues which make it problematic in use.

They talk about the cook stove in Allerton Abbey.  Peter says this is the only double shoebox still remaining as he had issues with the design, but this one works although it has gone through several doors.  Peter says it's a very powerful core and so it's difficult to tame it.

Paul recalls the rocket mass heater jamborees, where they made good progress with designs but it always cost a lot to run.  Paul would like to run another jamboree; Peter remarks that he's almost 80 now and might not be able to get there.  Peter has an idea for a development of a J tube which could be tried out if there was a jamboree.

Ben Falk joins in with some questions.  He points out that with a suitable wood stove you can also do all your cooking and heat domestic hot water while heating your home.  Ben has been using a woodstove to heat his home and hot water and to cook, and typically uses about 2 cords of wood.  Peter says he's often seen people change from a conventional stove to a RMH and use one third of the fuel.  Paul states that one year he measured the wood used very carefully and consumed 0.6 cords, but it's worth noting that is only for heating, not hot water and cooking.

Peter's opinion is that the 10% of the fuel use is not all that common.  He says mostly 30% is a good target.  There are good discussions to have about cooking and water heating.

Relevant Threads

Rocket Mass Heaters forum
2021 Rocket Mass Heater Jamboree - Wheaton Labs

Wood Burning Stoves forum

the first wofati - allerton abbey- version 0.7

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Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
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part 2 of a 3 part podcast

Continuing the discussion about heating your home if it was 100 below

Paul advances the theory that if it got excessively cold the electricity would go out.  Experience teaches that in extreme weather this tends to happen.  Most common means of heating won't work without power, even if the main heat source isn't electric.  Most wood stoves would work, plus of course RMHs and old style masonry heaters.

Paul figures when it's 25 below in winter he runs his RMH for only around 5 hours a day.  If it did get to 100 below, he would have to burn it longer.

Paul and Peter now get into discussing batch boxes vs J-tubes.  Peter says that to get the same amount of heat both burn about the same amount of fuel, although in a different way.  The J tube needs more frequent feeding.  The Batch box burns more fuel per load, but has to be able to harvest the heat effectively.

Peter describes the differences in batch boxes: they can be made to work faster or slower, depending on how much mass you add.  Without much mass it's a direct space heater ideal for a workshop or similar space.  Paul says for this purpose a batch box works better than a J tube since it can burn more wood per load and heat the space up faster.

When it comes to heating a home, the J tube is more flexible.  If Paul's house is a touch chilly he can burn the J tube for half an hour and increase the temperature by a few degrees.  Peter prefers to have a pure mass heater in his house, but you do have to burn it appropriately for the space it's heating.  Paul mentions this is an issue with people who aren't used to a mass heater.

Relevant Threads

Rocket Mass Heaters forum

Wood Burning Stoves forum

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Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
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The topic is "how to heat your house if it's 100 below".

He asks Alexandra what's the coldest temperature she's experienced, which was about -7°F or so.  Peter van den Berg joins in and has experienced a similar temperature.  Peter says his niece lives in Finland where the temperature can be -30°C

Peter says you need to store fuel inside by the stove, so it's dry and warm and burns efficiently.
Paul is doing an ongoing experiment to heat the house with cardboard, paper and scrap wood.  He mentions efficiency of stoves: wood stoves are sold as "80% efficient" but they don't achieve anything close to that in practice.  Especially, burning a wood stove slowly is very inefficient.  

Peter states that you can get decent efficiency from a wood stove, but mostly people don't.  There are 2 factors: burn efficiency and heat extraction efficiency.  Burning a wood stove slowly creates very poor burn efficiency, so even if the heat extraction is OK it makes no difference.  

Coming back to the 100 below idea, Paul states if there's extreme cold forecast, you need to be prepared: firstly, shut off and drain the plumbing to prevent pipes freezing, as you may not be able to heat the house enough to prevent freezing.  Alexandra asks at what temperature Paul and Peter would decide to drain the pipes.  Paul thinks he could keep his house warm enough with the RMH to avoid draining the pipes even in extreme cold, but he would need to do various tricks to avoid them freezing.

Peter's house has less insulation, but the water pipes are not in the external walls.  Provided the house is occupied and heated it would be no problem.  People say that such houses even if empty for 2 weeks in winter don't freeze inside.  In his father's house they would drain the pipes if it was freezing weather, but the winter in Holland is less severe.

Relevant Threads

Wood Burning Stoves forum

Winterize your home my Permies!
Workaround To Avoid Frozen/Burst Pipes In Exterior Walls?
Plumbing forum

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Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard