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part 3 of a 3 part podcast

Andreas, Paul and Samantha continue the discussion about homestead gumption.

Andreas now wants to discuss the difference between a "homestead" and a "permaculture homestead".  Samantha feels that permaculture design means that everything you do is with an eye to the long term future.

Paul defines permaculture as a more symbiotic relationship with nature so he can be even lazier.  Typical homesteads will have a garden in perfect rows with no weeds.  Paul wants his homestead to work without him - systems that are self-sustaining for weeks or months.  Paul's plans are less of a map and more of a list of things he wants to achieve.  Working through the list allows him to learn more about his property, which then revises the list.  If you make a map you tend to become a slave to it.

Andreas feels there's an issue with putting too much energy into things that won't improve your quality of life in the short term.  Paul agrees, suppose you have 10 acres: limit yourself to a quarter of an acre for the first year rather than trying to do everything at once.

The next point raised is what kind of short term tasks can bring gumption back.  Samantha says being able to sit down at the table and eat the food you have raised is a great motivator.  Tomatoes, sunchokes, kale, walking onions all require little effort and give great rewards.  Paul doesn't like goals, as they can become poison.

Andreas thinks you need to take time to appreciate what you have achieved.  Paul recalls when he first got base camp and it was just rock, and now there's stuff growing everywhere.

They talk a bit about frugality.  Paul doesn't like the word as it suggests sacrifice.  He prefers gertitude, which implies abundance, so you don't need money.  Samantha feels that for her frugality is making your own stuff, not buying it.  She prefers to make stuff from what she has or can find.

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Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
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Sasquatch
Bill Crim
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Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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part 2 of a 3 part podcast

Andreas and Paul continue the discussion about homestead gumption

They talk a bit about being prepared for winter and power outages - wood heat is a big advantage.  Samantha is keen to get a rocket mass heater in her house.  Andreas says having the ability to survive without grid power is a big motivator.

Paul describes the typical wannabe homesteaders.  What many do is to buy a homestead, usually on a mortgage - but that means they have to keep doing their worky job to pay for it, and thus have limited time to do any homesteading, while at the same time their worky job has a much longer commute.  Often they get fed up with it and just quit.  Paul wants those people to attend a gardening gardeners program (ideally, boot camp)  The right program can give you the skills and experience to do homesteading easily and better.

10 years ago Paul started Ant Village where you could rent an acre of land for $800 a year.  However mostly they lacked adequate gumption.  During the Ant Village experiment, Paul and Fred came up with the idea of boot camp.  Ant village is still there but now you can't rent without doing 6 months in boot camp.  Samantha says when she first got her property she didn't get a lot done to begin with.  Once she'd been there a while she developed necessary habits to work on the land.  She feels boot camp is great to instill the habits you need for easy homesteading.

They talk a bit about families.  Paul feels that most kids in the US want to move out from home and live on their own once they finish high school.  Andreas says in Colombia it's much more common for families to stay together.  He feels that this helps strengthen communities and strong communities make homesteading easier.  Paul feels that boot camp has that kind of community spirit.  Samantha compares working on your own to in a community, she thinks Paul has got a good community there now and as a result lots get done; at her place, stuff only gets done if she does it.

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Permaculture Bootcamp - gardening gardeners; grow the food you eat and build your own home

are there currently millions of permaculture millionaires? (the story of Gert)

Podcast 716 - Gardening Gardeners - Part 1, Part 2

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This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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part 1 of a 3 part podcast

Permaculture Smackdown 32: Homestead Gumption.

Andreas is in charge!  He says that although homesteading can be fun in practice it can be repetitive, overwhelming at times, and costly.  In various ways motivation (or gumption) fades and the homestead fails; he feels there needs to discussion about this.

Andreas says people ask if a permaculture homestead is actually possible.  Paul says it definitely is but it's possible for the wrong choices to make it much more difficult and that can easily lead to lack of gumption.

Samantha joins in.  Paul suggests that Samantha has a ton of gumption.  She says that if you fail on something this year, you can always play again next year.  It's not game over.

Andreas says city living people get discouraged even before starting to try to make a homestead.  Maybe they need to experience a functional homestead first, such as boot camp.  Paul says there's a lot of information out there but it's hard to know which advice to follow.  Andreas says hands on experience shows people it's not as difficult as they think.  Paul describes how it's much easier to get into homesteading as part of a group in a gardening gardeners program.  Samantha says it's great to see people at boot camp starting from nothing and learning stuff.  Andreas asks Paul how you get into boot camp.  It costs $100 to join, you get a questionnaire, once that's done Paul will tell them when the next start dates are.  Andreas asks if families are welcome.  Paul says they can rent a cabin;  12 year olds or older can join in boot camp provided there's a parent with them.  Younger kids can't join in and have to be supervised during boot time.  There's other stuff they can do besides boot camp.

Andreas feels you need to become Gert.  Paul agrees, Gert will have developed the skills to homestead efficiently. They agree it takes time and practice to achieve the competence to make homesteading easy.

Relevant Threads

Permaculture Bootcamp - gardening gardeners; grow the food you eat and build your own home

are there currently millions of permaculture millionaires? (the story of Gert)

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This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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part 2 of a 2 part podcast

Paul continues the discussion on creating permaculture communities with Stephen Brooks from Ecoversity.

They talk about an amazing fruit which takes 2 years on the tree to be ready to harvest, after flowering.  Paul's aim is to have a giant harvest window.  This fruit has maybe a 6 week window to pick it.  There are a lot of people who have limited time for gardening and often miss harvesting stuff due to being too busy.  Larger harvest windows make life easy.

Stephen mentions Joe Hewitt's facebook group Grow all the Fruits as an example of how plant collectors have changed and are spreading fruit or veg around rather than hoarding it.  Stephen wants to integrate all these new fruits into their communities.

They talk about the problems of innovating when it's hard to get government approval.  Stephen says there are sundry annoying regulations they have to meet in Costa Rica.  With that said, people are managing to set up communities despite the governments.  Stephen mentions Bill Mollison's autobiography (Travels in Dreams) where he says more or less that practical solutions can only be suppressed for a short while.  The more people get organized doing stuff the harder it becomes to suppress.

Paul mentions that in most communities he's seen, even if the community itself has endured, there's a lot of turnover of people so that most members haven't been there more than 2 years.  He asks Stephen what his recipe is for an enduring community.  Stephen says there's quite a bit of turnover especially in the first community they started.  The latest community has been running 4 or 5 years with little turnover.  He thinks people like to feel empowered and feel that they are co-creating their community.  It's also important to keep it fun.  Stephen describes the management model for the community which has a lot of similarity to a HOA but with permaculture values.  He also describes the new community they are currently building.

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south america / central america / mexico Forum
Permaculture community forum

Ecoversity

Grow All The Fruits Facebook page

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Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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Summary

part 1 of a 2 part podcast

Paul discusses creating permaculture communities with Stephen Brooks from Ecoversity.

Paul relates that many communities he's visited seem not to be working well.  However Stephen has a different approach and currently has 3 communities up and running.  Paul met Stephen a few years ago at a prepper event in Texas.

Stephen lives in Costa Rica where there's no army, but people are allowed to have guns.  Stephen doesn't and hopes never to need one.

At the event where they met Stephen did a presentation about the community he was running.  Stephen relates things from his life which led to where he is now.  He visited Costa Rica in 1995 and loved it.  Watching a plane spraying a banana plantation and the inevitable drift of toxic chemicals led to him deciding to move to Costa Rica with the idea of trying to build something better.

Having moved to a farm in Costa Rica, he started bringing students there.  He bought an off-grid property where he met an old Jamaican who was born there in 1928.  He started growing food and employed local people who knew how nature worked.  They built a community and then started getting wwoofers there.  He took a course in 1999 in Hawaii as that was the only tropical permaculture course he could find.  He began to teach in 2001.  To begin with most attendees were young hippies, and it expanded to various retreats.  Following a Netflix show in 2020, the government came and shut them down.

After this he defined his criteria for the ideal site for a community, and that done he went out to buy land to build a community.  In 2007 they started a second community and in 2018 they bought 170 acres more land for a third.  There are now over 200 families between the 3 communities and 150 kids in the school.

Their latest project is 100 acres on the beach and includes what is effectively a permaculture school.

Relevant Threads

south america / central america / mexico Forum
Permaculture community forum

Ecoversity

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This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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Summary

part 2 of a 2 part podcast

Continuing the live event about the new playing cards

Paul feels better about the new cards than the first batch.  There's been more consultation on the words and he likes the art.

Before they move on from the water heater, Paul makes the point again about the potential danger of pressurized systems.

The next card (#5) is the solar food dehydrator with rocket assist.  This has been a big hit, and much more popular than the old solar dehydrator.  It also has rocks inside it to store heat.  It dries food faster which makes higher quality dried food.  The glass angle is optimized for fall rather than summer.

6: The hay box cooker.  Samantha likes the hay box cooker.  There's a suggestion that hay boxes could work well with the Lorena, if you have additional pots for the Lorena, you could boil them up and put them in hay boxes.  Paul's hay boxes are actually insulated with wool, but you can use any insulation.  Actual hay isn't commonly used now.  Combining the rocket stove with hay boxes would make a really simple fully off grid cooking setup.

7: The automatic backyard food pump.  Although there's more development to do it's already showing much promise.

8: Ferd and Gert.  The story of Ferd and Gert on a playing card!  Unlike all the other characters Ferd wears shoes and a tie.

The email list is broken right now thanks to bad guys, so people need to help spread the word.  They finish off by listing the rewards for the $20 backer level.

Relevant Threads

gardening playing cards for gardeners and homesteaders Kickstarter campaign

Permaculture Playing Cards - the purple deck
The Gardening Playing Cards Purple Deck Kickstarter kickback program

Automatic Backyard Food Pump

3D Plans - Solar Food Dehydrator with Rocket Boost

are there currently millions of permaculture millionaires? (the story of Gert)

Support the Empire

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This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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Summary

part 2 of a 2 part podcast

Continuing the live event about the new playing cards

Paul feels better about the new cards than the first batch.  There's been more consultation on the words and he likes the art.

Before they move on from the water heater, Paul makes the point again about the potential danger of pressurized systems.

The next card (#5) is the solar food dehydrator with rocket assist.  This has been a big hit, and much more popular than the old solar dehydrator.  It also has rocks inside it to store heat.  It dries food faster which makes higher quality dried food.  The glass angle is optimized for fall rather than summer.

6: The hay box cooker.  Samantha likes the hay box cooker.  There's a suggestion that hay boxes could work well with the Lorena, if you have additional pots for the Lorena, you could boil them up and put them in hay boxes.  Paul's hay boxes are actually insulated with wool, but you can use any insulation.  Actual hay isn't commonly used now.  Combining the rocket stove with hay boxes would make a really simple fully off grid cooking setup.

7: The automatic backyard food pump.  Although there's more development to do it's already showing much promise.

8: Ferd and Gert.  The story of Ferd and Gert on a playing card!  Unlike all the other characters Ferd wears shoes and a tie.

The email list is broken right now thanks to bad guys, so people need to help spread the word.  They finish off by listing the rewards for the $20 backer level.

Relevant Threads

gardening playing cards for gardeners and homesteaders Kickstarter campaign

Permaculture Playing Cards - the purple deck
The Gardening Playing Cards Purple Deck Kickstarter kickback program

Automatic Backyard Food Pump

3D Plans - Solar Food Dehydrator with Rocket Boost

are there currently millions of permaculture millionaires? (the story of Gert)

Support the Empire

Help support the empire and get all of the podcasts in a bundle here in the digital market at permies.

To support production of these podcasts, make a donation here at Paul's Patreon page.



This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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Summary

part 1 of a 2 part podcast.

Today's live event topic is the new playing cards.  They will discuss 12 of the cards, chosen by vote.

1: Rocket cooktop card.  The rocket cooktop is sort of the opposite of a RMH: you want to burn the fire while cooking and have any surplus heat go outdoors.  Unlike a regular stove, the temperature varies over the cooking surface.  The cooktop in Allerton abbey has a glass top from an electric stove, which is very effective.  The one in Cooper cabin has an iron top which takes longer to heat up.  The good thing is you do your cooking with sticks you find lying around.  The point is made that the rocket cooktop may have applications in the developing world where they cook on open wood fires.

2: Outdoor cooktop with Lorena.  In this design there's a hole in the top of the riser into which a pot fits, so the fire heats the pot directly. It's very good for boiling water, or for a boiling water bath for indirect heating.  It's an outdoor only design as the flue gases can get out.  It's apparently good for making maple syrup. One drawback is if the liquid isn't deep enough in the pan, it gets excessively hot if the part of the pan not covered by the liquid is exposed to the fire.

3: Rocket kiln.  This is much faster and cheaper to run than a gas or electric kiln.  A conventional wood-fired kiln uses 20 cords of wood and has to burn for 2+ days.  The rocket kiln uses a large armful of wood for one firing.  Historically, potters were pushed out of town due to the smoke from the kiln.  

4: Rocket water heater.  Very quick and easy to heat water.  An un-pressurized, open outlet system.

Question: is there EV charging.  There are fast chargers nearby.  On site, you can do level 1 charging; for now there's no level 2 charging:  Mike comments that it wouldn't be enormously expensive to install that.

Relevant Threads

gardening playing cards for gardeners and homesteaders Kickstarter campaign

Permaculture Playing Cards - the purple deck
The Gardening Playing Cards Purple Deck Kickstarter kickback program

3d Plans - Rocket Cooktop with Lorena Option

Support the Empire

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This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
David Lucey
Janelle
thomas adams
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Keith Kuhnsman
Cindi Duehmig
Banter Couch
Eric Tolbert
Paul Tipper
Paul F
Gerald Bernard


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part 3 of a 3 part podcast

Paul continues the discussion about AI and college with Alan, Alexandra and Samantha

Alexandra has just completed PEP2 and has been in touch with some people but so far hasn't found anyone where she feels there's a permanent deal on offer.  Alexandra is a fan of the SKIP program and would like to see more in-person SKIP workshops in future.

Alan says that uncertainty about the future is higher than it's been for many years and modern education is increasingly abstract. SKIP is providing practical skills which may be important in the future and give you more options.

Paul feels SKIP is one path to having a home and large garden, which is available to people even while doing a worky job, and what it's providing for Otises is evidence that prospective inheritors have done the stuff they say they have done; at the same time it gives validation that the skills people are learning are being done right.

Alexandra has also started teaching courses on how to build rocket mass heaters and SKIP has built her knowledge and confidence to allow her to do that.  She would also like to go deeper into other RMH styles like batch boxes.  

Paul talks a bit about preppers.  Most preppers seem to focus on acquiring tech and goods and lots of guns.  More emphasis on growing food and practical skills seem better to Paul.  The whole tech thing can go wrong and leave you with nothing, but with a large garden and a RMH you can be genuinely self-sufficient.

They respond to a question about acquiring land in other countries.  SKIP and Otises are global in extent although obviously Paul's operation is in Montana.  Paul's aim is a successful gardening gardeners program, which he doesn't feel he really has yet - and he feels he needs that success to be able to fully advocate for gardening gardeners.

Relevant Threads

All about SKIP, PEP, Badges, BBs and More!

AI Based Agroecology Tools and AI Safety

Rocket Mass Heaters forum
Internships & Apprenticeships forum

Support the Empire

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This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Amy Berry
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
Janelle
thomas adams
David Lucey
Kay Gelfing
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Cindi Duehmig
Samantha Lewis
Polly Jayne Smyth
Banter Couch
Rebekah Harmon
Chris Holtslag
Zach Keeshin
Paul Tipper


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part 2 of a 3 part podcast.

Paul continues the discussion about AI and college with Alan, Mike, Alexandra and Samantha.

Paul wants to see kids taught integrity and decency and for them to use AI to work wonders.  He's happy to see douchebags fail.

Alan disagrees.  The kids are not the problem and given the chance even the douchebags can be turned around with the right approach.  Alexandra agrees with Alan.  

There's been talk of trade schools.  Paul mentions that AI-driven robots are not that far away, which will potentially replace tradespeople.  

Alan sees the first autonomous robots being used in high-risk situations where a human worker wouldn't be safe. This might start coming out in the next few years.  

Paul asks about the ROI on spending 2 years in trade school.  Alan feels that's a more solid investment for the next few decades - it's lower debt and a more durable skill.  Mike says that there are also people getting on-the-job training for trades.  He feels robots doing trade work in the real world are a long way off.  Alexandra likes the prospect of trade school for her kids.  Samantha points out that it depends on what people are interested in.

Paul mentions Jacob Lund Fisker's book "Early Retirement Extreme" and "Mortgage Free" by Rob Roy, both of which advocate living humbly to save money and use the money thus saved to improve their lot.  Mike thinks if you can achieve owning a property debt-free it's definitely a good plan.  Paul feels the garden is a critical part to living humbly.  Alexandra points out that you can live humbly with a large garden yet still struggle for example to pay for the dentist.  It's a big transition for most people.  Paul agrees that it's not a quick fix: you need to work on it for a year or two.

Samantha has a teenage boy; she wants him to follow his passion and find a way to earn income doing what he likes. Her advice to someone thinking of college is to find things they can do which will make money, rather than getting into debt.

Relevant Threads

Mortgage Free! Innovative Strategies for Debt-Free Home Ownership by Rob Roy
Early Retirement Extreme by Jacob Lund Fisker

AI Based Agroecology Tools and AI Safety

Internships & Apprenticeships forum

Support the Empire

Help support the empire and get all of the podcasts in a bundle here in the digital market at permies.

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This podcast was made possible thanks to:

Dr. Hugh Gill Kultur
Kyle Aster
Sasquatch
Bill Crim
G Cooper
Mehron Kugler
Bill Erickson
Julia Winter, world's slowest mosaic artist
Sean Benedict
Rita Bliden
Brent Lawson
Amy Berry
Song Zheng
Dana Martin
Janelle
thomas adams
David Lucey
Kay Gelfing
Clay McGowan
Shay Riggs
Dr. Jackie
Cindi Duehmig
Samantha Lewis
Polly Jayne Smyth
Banter Couch
Rebekah Harmon
Chris Holtslag
Zach Keeshin
Paul Tipper