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Edy Ki

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Jackson Bradley wrote:My observation from butchering various animals is that deer are leaner than rabbits as a percent of total body weight. I think a lot of folks have and do subsist off of deer meat but I am not sure about the health outcomes. I think the hunter gatherer peoples probably ate a very lean diet and here we are so I suppose it may be fine for most folks.

Here are my opinions and while we have been raising rabbits and eating them for a few years, I only have our experience to share.

The rabbit is very easy to feed without store bough inputs. You can select breeders that have more fat, grow well from what you feed them, breed well, etc. Typically a rabbit litter will display similar characteristics. When you start butchering, you can size up fat content and keep some breeders from that litter if you notice them having a lot of fat.

I have found that the older the rabbit is before you butcher, the more fat they have. 12 weeks verses 16 weeks for example. Of course this may eat into feed efficiency but if you can feed them from your land, it is not much of a concern.

I think at this point I have tried every rabbit butchering and cooking method that I could find. I have found to retain the most fat and use the animal in what I feel is the best way, I have arrived at a permanent method.

I do this: https://permies.com/t/283537/Deboning-Rabbit and save all of the bones for broth. I save all of the fat trimmings, edible organs, and grind it all up with the boneless meat in my grinder. It yields a higher fat content and is very versatile.


I would really appreciate hearing how I can feed my 40 rabbits without buying so much pellets. It is too expensive and with the fuel crisis there may be scarcity. How do you feed them?

2 weeks ago
Rabbit poop. If you raise Rabbits, you have the best fertilizer on the planet. And it is cold fertilizer which means it doesn’t have to be compost before you use it. I have 40 Rabbits and all my friends come and get bags of rabbit poop from me.
2 weeks ago
Hi Hazel and Woodland friends. Last year I was introduced to a concept called forest farming. I have a new friend who bought some rabbits from me. Whereas in traditional logging the idea is “take the best and leave the rest“ in forest farming it’s the opposite you’re going to leave the very high quality trees, possibly only thinning out the ones that need thinning because of sickness or positioning, but you will be taking down some of the junk trees and then inoculating them with a variety of mushrooms. The process of farming and harvesting the mushrooms supposedly takes about six years. Then as well, you grow herbs, various types such as golden seal, etc. This brings the value and yield off of an acre of forest, much higher without doing the same type of damage. You keep the wonderful, valuable older trees, and are doing carbon sequestration at the same time and so much more sustainable, as well as a much better business model, and better for the planet. One must be very cautious when bringing down trees, apparently it’s very dangerous so it’s not something to just fool around with, you need the skills. I really want to learn more about forest farming, and I’m hoping that your book will have something in it about this..
2 years ago
Can a farmer take a holiday in the summer one year and go to Europe/wherever for a month?  Yes, if they are a member of a cohousing Farming Community.  Does each neighbor in a neighborhood need a tractor or lawn mover or chainsaw or pickup truck?  Not if they are a member of a common-purpose cohousing community.  How long will it take you to build a shed for chickens?  Not long if members of your community do it together.  Is it easy to trade places with someone else in the world for a month and experience a different culture and country?  Pretty easy if both families are members of a co-housing community and can swap homes and work for a different look at life for an agreed upon period of a week or two, a month, even six months.  What do you do with your dog, cat and canary, not to mention chickens and rabbits, if you have to suddenly attend a family event far away?  They can stay with and be cared for by your neighbors if you live in a cohousing community (and you will be able to do that for your neighbors when they need it as well).

I am on the Planning Board in my small town and we are trying to rezone so that a "cluster housing" option is available for plots of more than 10 acres so a group of homeowners can have a main house, some small personal homes clustered in one place and reserve the rest of the land for permaculture or group farming, with the addition of a couple businesses perhaps like a woodshop, seminar spaces, pottery, food products such as jam, honey and candles, chutney, goat milk and cheese, eggs, baked goods or jerkey, and a café/shop or WHATEVER the group chooses to create.  This would be similar to owning a condo where one owns the interior of one's own space and then is a member of the association that owns all the land (or you could arrange it as a co-op where members own shares of all of it determined by the square feet of their living space).  There are charter rules and if someone wants to sell, the association has to approve the new buyer as part of the sales process.  The small homes or tiny houses would not need entertaining space, laundries, or much of a kitchen as that would be shared at the main house and in the ones I've visited when I lived in Washington State, the members would eat dinner together about 4 times per week with members rotating on the cooking team.  The kids would be kind of like a tribe and the members might form small groups or pairs for support and activity purposes.  There might be a music room/library for get togethers and communal relaxing time and meetings.  Some of these have a bunkhouse for visitors who come to work for a while and stay.  That could also be housing if the community offers seminars or seminar space.  Members (by agreement with community) can choose to do work hours, or work in town/from home and contribute financially, or a mixture.  Elders, youngsters, etc. can be valued parts of the multigenerational community.  If there's one artist, they can contribute art workshops for the community, etc.  My question is, does anyone have this going on or know of good examples so I can present some examples to my Planning Board members so we can get the idea?    Around Seattle the land cost is higher, but there are plenty of places where it's lower, so it could work for all kinds of starter investments, but that has to be thought of when choosing the place to do it... also the zoning laws, whether they permit cluster housing or not... currently our town voted it down about 15 years ago but I am not sure why (yes, next step is to find out).  Here is a random one in Washington State, where 10 years ago they had 17 cohousing communities (I only visited 2). https://www.sunnysidevillagecohousing.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAwKyNBhBfEiwA_mrUMk-gZSOTjbIcqQSGYnPFMW43WBBIiNpEB-bI4MVb0AkoOjVprx6hxhoCQIUQAvD_BwE
4 years ago
I have 3 angora rabbits and harvest their wool.  I would like to use it to do felting.  Is anyone here doing felting?  My friend said using angora wool is hard and I should get sheep wool.
5 years ago
This thread has some people's comments about their dogs and how they would not be troubling.  I do sympathize with this and it might seem to an individual since their dog is not problematic that it should be allowed.  However, I'd like to point out that people with problematic dogs usually don't understand the problems or see it differently.  Therefore in a group or community setting it is actually inconsiderate to ask for an exception to be made... because it creates too much trouble for the organizers sorting out all the exceptions and having these prolonged discussions and considering your dogs one by one...sorry because I understand the bond and the need to keep your loved one (dog) in optimum condition which means allowed to be with you.  But I believe you should just take this at face value and accept the stricture.  The dogs are a side element in this endeavor... work till you find a good foster home for your loved one during your absence.
8 years ago