Matthew; I understand. I am finding that it take a lot of money to go off the grid. More than I ever had. I ended up buying an inner city house and live very simply and grow a lot of my own food. I use little water or utillities. It is interesting that the closest I could be to a permies person was to live in the inner city. Everything else was way to costly and by far beyond my meens. Best of luck to you.