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Alexia’ grandma from Chile would say 'the devil knows more from being old than being the devil'. Everyone there is expected to have a daily nature connection practice - this seems to help the community work. If we work together now, we all benefit later.  Paul has an audience, and people keep telling him what to think or say, then get angry when he doesn't - “obey or else”. Awkward, painful situations. How do you design to reduce these situations and navigate them when they arise? Have to accept that we are all human.  People's expectations need to meet you, so find the sweet spot.

Expanding your own zone one is probably better than having more land further away.  Paul uses Sepp style consulting - he just tells the landowner what he would do if he owned the land. Walking around blathering is ok, but make your own design. For instance, berms and hugelkulture don't really work with horses, they do better with long straight lines. Smaller spaces are more for human power, but horses are fun to work with and are gentle on the land and people love them.

What does Paul see as his role in talking with people about their land? People are doing so many things on his land - each person has their own acre there to express their own vision. When he sees another property, it's hard to advise when he's still experimenting himself. He encourages people to spend time on the labs, and to garden rather than farm. Better to have a deeper relationship and interaction with the land. Pee on one's own lawn etc. She-wee - not recommended, but Paul's trough thing seems to work. Alexia prefers buckets, but then they fight over the contents. Close the nutrient loop - raspberry hedge reveals secrets!

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