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We've been working on the pep stuff for years.  And I think we have done a really good job of getting away from the suggestions of testing or required reading.  

I think that people need to know how to tie shoes with laces, but we don't have a BB for that.  Nor for having paid their taxes or drive themselves to run errands.    So we draw the line somewhere.  

For budgets, planning, reporting, tracking incomes and expenses ...   that does seem important ...   and it also seems important that people take all of the proper safety steps when welding or dropping a tree.  

I think my official word on bookkeeping is:   not at this time.
 
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Gotta draw the line(s) somewhere. That makes a lot of sense.

(not that you needed me to tell you!)
 
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Would love to take part. How do I get my badge? I've been working on residual income streams since 2014.
- Over 20 books and journals published - brings in an avg of $200/mth
- Over a 100 T-shirt designs (POD) - brings in about $100-200/mth
- Working on selling Math lessons on TpT - about $15 so far
- Starting YouTube Channel offering Math lessons - Not monetized yet.
 
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Awesome J, looks like you're in good shape to get a badge.  What you need to do is to go to the beginning of the Commerce badge (on page #1) and click on whichever task you are interested in saying you've done.  Each task is called a BB (Badge Bit).  Complete enough badge bits, you get the badge.  For Commerce it's just the four BBs.

So follow a link to the BB, read the requirements and if you've satisfied them, make a post in that thread showing that you've done the thing.  Someone will come along and certify your BB (Yay).  Once you've had all four BBs certified, you make a post in this thread asking to get the badge certified.  Kind of like This One over in the foraging badge.

Let me know if that doesn't make sense and welcome to the PEP program
 
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Awesome. Thank you.

I was wondering if selling our hay to our neighbor would count for the permaculture part?


Mike Haasl wrote:Awesome Jill, looks like you're in good shape to get a badge.  What you need to do is to go to the beginning of the Commerce badge (on page #1) and click on whichever task you are interested in saying you've done.  Each task is called a BB (Badge Bit).  Complete enough badge bits, you get the badge.  For Commerce it's just the four BBs.

So follow a link to the BB, read the requirements and if you've satisfied them, make a post in that thread showing that you've done the thing.  Someone will come along and certify your BB (Yay).  Once you've had all four BBs certified, you make a post in this thread asking to get the badge certified.  Kind of like This One over in the foraging badge.

Let me know if that doesn't make sense and welcome to the PEP program

 
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Hmm, it would definitely count for the selling $20 BB.  For the $100 of permaculture labor BB you'd need to show how it's related to permaculture.  The intent (as I understand it) is to further the art of permaculture via this transaction.  

I just dug up a quote from Paul about that exact BB:

paul wheaton wrote:I wish to express that this is permaculture labor and not homesteading labor.   Nor is it other conventional forms of labor.  

I think there are a lot of people out there that think that building experience in permaculture pays about as well as "having a degree in philosophy" or "being an artist".  While it is true that there are people that ACTUALLY make money with these endeavors, it will comfort people if they can show the coin.   The same can be said for permaculture labor.  



So, I'm thinking that the answer is no.  Unless it's permaculturally managed hay and you charge a premium for it?  Or you harvest it manually to be one with the grass stems?  I'm just making things up here but hopefully you see what I mean
 
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I think I’m ready for the sand badge in Commerce. All four bbs are complete.

https://permies.com/p/1132325

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Here is my submission for the Commerce Sand Badge - Complete 4 BB to Earn this Badge
  Develop a Possible Residual Income Stream that Brings in at least $5 per Year
  Perform Some Sort of Labor Over the Internet and Get Paid at Least $50
  Sell Goods I Made (Snowmen from Forest Waste)
  Get Paid for an On-Homestead Service (Cottage Industry)
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I'm a little unsure on why there is a requirement to have the income sources be permaculture-related. Does this mean that if I have a passive income that would otherwise qualify me for an iron-level badge, if it doesn't relate to homesteading I can't present that? Can someone explain to me why Otis would need all income sources to be derived directly from the land? Thanks in advance :)
 
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If there's a place where it says the residual income streams need to be permaculture related, please provide a link so we can review it.
 
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Mike Haasl wrote:If there's a place where it says the residual income streams need to be permaculture related, please provide a link so we can review it.



Hello, i read through the details of the links again and i had misunderstood that part. you're right, there is no need to have a relation to permaculture. :)
 
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I just completed the Commerce Sand badge!

Here's a link to my profile

Residual income stream
Labor over the internet
Permaculture labor off site
Sell goods
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