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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum. Completing this BB is part of getting the sand badge in Commerce.

Perform some sort of labor over the internet and get paid at least $50.

Here is a list of some ideas of things you can do for money over the internet, sometimes called Agile work.
Wondering what is Agile work? Have a look here.

To get certified for this BB, post the following:
  • A description of your labor
  • A picture of proof that the labor was done over the internet
  • A picture of proof it made you at least $50 (you can smudge the personal info, as long as it is identifiable as yours)
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    I shared links for Paul's Rocket Oven Kickstarter. He paid me a kickback percentage of the amount those people had pledged.

    Here's an email during the kickstarter showing my progress, and then a screenshot of the amount I was paid.
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    I certify this BB as complete!

     
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    Hello there!


    I do wordpress work, over the internet for a few clients I've been very picky about choosing. (I also do project management, training, and project management training).

    Here's a picture of some work I did for this client:


    Here's a picture of one of the invoices:


    Here's a picture of the payment for that particular invoice:


    Mods, if you need extra details, PM me and I will gladly send/post them!
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    Would writing a magazine article count for this?  All contacts, contracts and communications with the editor are and would be by email.
     
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    For those casting about ways to do this there are a lot of options.  Too many to cover in a single post.

    For small dollar commerce you can get paid to take surveys.  I used Prolific, which is for academic researchers to gather data for their studies, but it is not available everywhere.  You will usually get less than a dollar per survey, but they are short.  A quick google search will reveal any number of small dollar options that companies are willing to pay to rent your eyeballs and attention span.  Attachment below.

    For mid dollar commerce, if you have a bachelor's degree you can sign up to help students by answering homework questions.  I did this for Study.com for a few months, they pay $5/answer but it was college level stuff and worked out to about $8/hr once I got good at it because the answers need to be detailed.  It does have the added benefit of helping you brush up on your old academic skills if you feel like you need it.

    Finally, for full-time commerce, if you have a bachelor's degree and are a native or near native English speaker, you can get an English as a Second Language certificate and do online tutoring.  This can pay anywhere from $15-50/hr depending on your qualifications, experience, and any sort of niche that you can fill (IELTS, STEM, Business, etc).  I've heard rumor that it can get higher than that but this seems to be the market consensus rate.  I haven't done this personally but I have known people who did it full-time and made decent money.
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    Account page - amount earned in the upper right. 80 GBP = 103 USD
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    I certify this BB complete along with your first air badge!

     
    Mike Haasl
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    I think I completed this one.  I wrote an article for Mother Earth News magazine about starting a homesteading club and they paid me $250 for it.  

    They contacted me by email and we communicated back and forth that way.  Contracts were signed, scanned and emailed.  Article and photos were emailed.  So I hope that counts as "labor over the internet".

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    Looks good Mike. Certified!

     
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    I sell physical copies of my music online.  Sometimes I sell t-shirts and miscellaneous merchandise as well, but they sell better in person when I play live than online.  Here are the receipts for the last couple months.
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    Hi Kyle, could you elaborate more upon how the CDs are burned, where they're shipped from and how involved you are in getting the CD from point A to point B?  If you're doing all that, then it's a fit for this BB (per my understanding of Paul's brain).  If a service does all that and you just see the money roll in, then it isn't a fit for this BB.
     
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    It depends, in the past I've burnt CDs and printed paper covers that I fold up.  I've also gotten vinyl records pressed at a pressing house then shipped to me and done the covers and packaging myself.   Usually these days I get turnkey vinyl records or tapes for a more professional package and have them shipped to me in bulk then ship them out as orders come in.  Once a record company did all the shipping for me, but I made less money and didn't save that much work.
     
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    I think if you can show pictures of taking burned CDs, tapes or LPs, putting pretty covers on them and mailing them out, along with the associated $20 of income for those things, that would probably qualify.  I think.
     
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    Okay, here is mine:

    Copy edit academic journal. This is a journal where high school students can publish original, peer-reviewed research -- the only journal of its kind in the world. I did the final copy edit and proof read of the student papers prior to publication. The payment was in CAD originally, but when I made the withdrawal, it converted to USD. The first screenshot is the proof that it was online, the second is the proof of the amount of payment.

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    I hereby certify that this badge bit is complete, and you now have the air Commerce Badge!

     
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    I recently closed my business building and maintaining web sites and doing web hosting. All work was done over the net.

    Invoice and payment for a job in 2018 working on a web site for a client. She has since let the site go, unfortunately (nothing to do with me).



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    Todd O'Brian wrote:For those casting about ways to do this there are a lot of options.  Too many to cover in a single post.

    For small dollar commerce you can get paid to take surveys.  I used Prolific, which is for academic researchers to gather data for their studies, but it is not available everywhere.  You will usually get less than a dollar per survey, but they are short.  A quick google search will reveal any number of small dollar options that companies are willing to pay to rent your eyeballs and attention span.  Attachment below.

    For mid dollar commerce, if you have a bachelor's degree you can sign up to help students by answering homework questions.  I did this for Study.com for a few months, they pay $5/answer but it was college level stuff and worked out to about $8/hr once I got good at it because the answers need to be detailed.  It does have the added benefit of helping you brush up on your old academic skills if you feel like you need it.

    Finally, for full-time commerce, if you have a bachelor's degree and are a native or near native English speaker, you can get an English as a Second Language certificate and do online tutoring.  This can pay anywhere from $15-50/hr depending on your qualifications, experience, and any sort of niche that you can fill (IELTS, STEM, Business, etc).  I've heard rumor that it can get higher than that but this seems to be the market consensus rate.  I haven't done this personally but I have known people who did it full-time and made decent money.



    When I posted this originally ya'll weren't doing air badges.  I live in the US but get paid in Pound-Sterling (80.03 GBP = 105.98 USD) by today's exchange.  Do I qualify for the badge?
     
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    Looks like your submission slipped through the cracks, thanks for bringing it up!  I just certified you and you now have a fancy new badge
     
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    Thank you, once I'm out of quarantine from my travels, I should be able to start getting after a few others.  So exciting!
     
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    Some years ago I was an online ghostwriter, as well as a couple others that offered a byline. I worked for several companies at the time including Textbroker, Yahoo, Suite101, and the one listed here: Crowd Content. I only did the work for a few years, finding that the amount of effort put in was often not paying as well as hoped since the requests were frequently vague (needing free revisions), or other times there would be long stretches with minimal work. Still, even just posting the earnings from one of those ventures does meet the requirements of this badge. I've since moved on to writing for myself instead of the ghostwriting and article writing thing.

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    A screenshot of a series of paychecks and their total. The picture should stand as proof of both the income and the fact it was online.
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    I hereby certify this BB complete along with you spiffy new Air badge in Commerce!

     
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    Not sure if this counts since I earned the money over multiple smaller payments for an ongoing project instead of one lump sum, but trying anyway!

    Description: Social media posts for Laura, a local Realtor. She pays me on an ongoing basis to develop and post one post per week on her business and personal Facebook pages . I invoice her monthly and she's really terrible at paying on time, but I've included a screenshot showing I've made over $100 from doing this for her.

    Proof that it was done over the internet: It's Facebook posts, it can't really not be done over the internet. I've included a screenshot of one of the posts I did for her, if that counts.

    Proof that I've made at least $100: I've included a screenshot from my invoicing software. Most of the invoices individually are less than $25, but in total I've made well over $100 from working with Laura, so I'm hoping it counts anyway!

    (The name showing in both screenshots is my deadname, which I use for business purposes because my area is not lgbt-friendly and it would be next to impossible for me to find work if I used my preferred name/pronouns.)
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    Screenshot of my invoicing software showing all the invoices Laura has paid (and a dropdown showing the account is mine).
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    I certify this BB complete along with your new air badge in Commerce!

     
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    Note:  The BB requirements have been updated a bit
     
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    If I understand this BB correctly then I believe the ecommerce store I developed and run for my website would qualify as "labor over the internet".  

    To describe my labor for this I built and maintain the whole website including the e-commerce store where I sell my artwork (vessels), chasing tools, and jigsaw puzzles.  I believe the labor of making and selling the art and tools will fall under a different BB but the puzzles and general website work seems like it would fit here.  This involves posting the "products", marketing through social media and various other venues, handling the sales with packing and shipping of the products.



    I'm not quite sure how to provide proof I did the labor over the internet.  Well, I can share an image of a page on my Shippo account where I purchase my shipping labels as potential proof I am doing the work.  The fact that it is an ecommerce store means it has to be on the internet, and I linked to it above.  I can also include an image of my current stock of puzzles.  (As I type this they are currently still available if anyone wants one!)

    For proof of payment I'll include a screen shot from my orders page that shows the sales totals for the different orders.  I haven't tallied up just what is shown in the screen shot but you can see it is well over the $50 required for this BB.

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    3D Printer Filament Review and affiliate work

    Description: I operate a few 3D printers and do review work for several companies, as well as affiliate work for Zyltech. This involves receiving new printer filaments, checking their tolerances, ease of printing, and providing useful input about their printing settings, uses, and my overall thoughts.


    This month so far I've accrued $58.87


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    I hereby certify that this badge bit is complete! And you now have your first air badge!

     
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    I'm thinking maybe my post just above Brian's may have slipped through the cracks.  Does mine qualify?
     
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    David Huang wrote:I'm thinking maybe my post just above Brian's may have slipped through the cracks.  Does mine qualify?



    It's an edge case and still under discussion.

    Since we have a BB for selling stuff... not sure if this fits under that BB or under "performing some sort of labor".

    Does "labor" qualify as working for ourself or is it necessary to be working for someone else who then pays us money?  
    Then does selling qualify as working for someone else?

    It's such a blurry line.  I suspect there are going to be a few more hours of discussion before we can find out where that line is.  
     
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    r ranson wrote:

    David Huang wrote:I'm thinking maybe my post just above Brian's may have slipped through the cracks.  Does mine qualify?



    It's an edge case and still under discussion.

    Since we have a BB for selling stuff... not sure if this fits under that BB or under "performing some sort of labor".

    Does "labor" qualify as working for ourself or is it necessary to be working for someone else who then pays us money?  
    Then does selling qualify as working for someone else?

    It's such a blurry line.  I suspect there are going to be a few more hours of discussion before we can find out where that line is.  



    Thanks for the reply R.  I agree it is a bit fuzzy.  I wasn't sure if this would qualify or not.  Based on the exchange between Kyle Bob and Mike Haasl earlier in the thread I thought it would.  I did already do the BB for making and selling my own work (art) using a check stub from one of my galleries as support.  With my puzzles I'm using the web to advertise and my ecommerce store to handle the transactions in an efficient way to make it a viable income stream with the limited profit margins.  

    One could argue that the "labor" I'm doing is for others (my customers) who are then paying me.  I don't actually write myself out a check for the work done even if no one buys anything.  It's more like having multiple employers instead of just one.  To me this is part of the security of self employment!  

    Regardless, I'm ok with whatever you all decide.  Glad I could be sticky wicket bringing the issue to the forefront to be worked out and clarified.  ;)  
     
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    I submit working from home during COVID as my labour over the internet.

    This is a bit of a tricky one.

    I've been working at my day job from home from March through to July, but most of the conversations were done over the phone.  

    Much of my job involves technical support and answering questions for shop keepers and professionals (basically, I'm the person the professionals call for help), advertising new products, copywriting, and improving the website.  But I had trouble finding things I could share publically since the business is very behind the scenes and the goal is to support the public personalities and professionals in this field.  
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    I tutor Composition over the Internet.  We barter, though, rather than use cash.  How would I show that?
     
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    Julie Hoolie wrote:I tutor Composition over the Internet.  We barter, though, rather than use cash.  How would I show that?


    Hi Julie! Welcome to Permies! Welcome to PEP!

    Thanks for asking whether barter will meet the badge bit requirements. I'm not sure whether barter can meet the Badge Bit requirement of earning $50. I'll ask and try to get you an answer here.

    As far as documenting it though; pictures seem like a good start. No need to expend that effort until we know if it'll fly.

    Welcome again!
     
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    I teach music lessons and all of my work has been online since March! If only I had taken pictures of lessons taking place at home, I could get the cottage industry BB, too.
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    I certify this BB complete!

     
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    Julie Hoolie wrote:I tutor Composition over the Internet.  We barter, though, rather than use cash.  How would I show that?


    Hey Julie, here's the answer I got:

    "If the barter far exceeds $300 in value, then i think we can call it "good enough""


     
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    Ash Jackson wrote:

    Julie Hoolie wrote:I tutor Composition over the Internet.  We barter, though, rather than use cash.  How would I show that?


    Hey Julie, here's the answer I got:

    "If the barter far exceeds $300 in value, then i think we can call it "good enough""



    Just to make sure, I'll call it on the low end since it's a barter, and wait until I have 30+ documented hours (and their side of the barter is complete) to submit.  Thanks.
     
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    Just a pesky post wondering if any decisions have been made as to whether or not my submission is going to be considered valid as internet labor for this BB.  No problem if the discussion is still going on or has been postponed to a later date.  I'm just being that sticky wicket I promised earlier.  :)  
     
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    Nicole Alderman wrote:I think we talked with Paul, and this BB is for labor that you do for an employeer.  Do you mind if we move your sumbission to the Goods BB? https://permies.com/wiki/115132/



    No problem with it not qualifying.  I just wanted to make sure it was clarified for anyone else in the future.  No need to move my submission over to the Goods BB.  I already have that one.  Making and selling my art is my prime job so it was easily covered already.  
     
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    David, your stuff is incredibly beautiful.  I especially like the etched ones. It's out of my price range ;-), but if I inherit money from some long-lost uncle, I'll be sure to get a few pieces.  It's nothing I've ever seen before.
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