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This is a badge bit (BB) that is part of the PEP curriculum.  Completing this BB is part of getting the straw badge in Nest.

In this Badge Bit, you will install at least 30 feet of permanent clothes line.



Some related articles
  - The Convenient Sturdy Outdoor Clothes Line
  - How to Build a Simple Clothes Line
  - How to Build a Simple Sturdy Clothes Line for Under $10
  - How to Install a Clothes Line









To complete this BB, the minimum requirements are:
  - install a permanent clothes line
      - at least 30 feet of line

To show you've completed this Badge Bit, you must provide:
   - a picture of the materials for installing the clothes line
   - an in progress picture halfway through the installation
   - an action shot of clothes hanging on the clothes line that is obviously more than 30 feet long
   - OR a 2-minute video of you doing this
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Here's the thread where I installed the lower clothesline: A child's laundry line is a useful thing! And a picture from that thread:


Here's a before picture from before I made the lower clothes line: https://permies.com/wiki/86788/Extreme-Clothespins-Henry-Berry-Dairy#716166

And more before pictures can be found here: https://permies.com/t/86763/Cloth-Shopping-Bags#720691



There's also mention of this clothesline from 5.5 years ago here

Here's a video of my clothesline, with me describing how it works.



To give extra documentation that I can actually make these clotheslines, and because one of the poles was leaning way too much, I took it apart and put it back together again! Here it is taken apart:



I hauled some big rocks to prop it up straight



Annoying clothesline tightener was stuck, so I couldn't loosen the line to get it to go on the post. After oiling it, I loosened it about 6 feet so it could go onto the poll. Here I am oiling it with olive oil:



Top clothesline hung again



Lower clothesline needed to be untied to reach the other side



So I tied it again with a laundry knot and reinstalled it



And here it is with clothes on it!




I measured the lines I took apart and reassembled. They were 30+ feet one way (my tape measure only went to 25 feet, and there was still at least 5 feet to the other end of the line.) Since I can and do use both top and bottom of each line, that's 30+30+30+30 (not even counting the longer line that I didn't disassemble that's at least another 45 feet one way.)

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I put up a clothesline in the laundry room.  We had one outside but it doesn't work so well in the winter.  There are 5 strings and they're each about 14' long.  I first put it up with 3 strings and then decided to add two more.
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Hanging stuff
Hanging stuff
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Supplies
Supplies
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Action shot of screwing the eyes into the 2x4
Action shot of screwing the eyes into the 2x4
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Screwed into the joists
Screwed into the joists
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All pretty on the left side
All pretty on the left side
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All pretty on the right side
All pretty on the right side
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Here is my BB attempt!

Equipment:

- 4 x eyelettes
- 50' of Cord
- Drill
- Screw Driver
- Exacto Knife

Area: Our gazebo! We can put clothes out if the weather is less than idea and if it gets windy (which it does!) at least we won't find them in with the chickens.


The length of one line is a little over 16 feet. I installed 2 lines.







Drying lines installed!



Laundry being dried!


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There are clothes-lines here since before I lived here, both indoors and outdoors. Of course I use them. There's no other way of drying here (it was for some time, when we got a second hand dryer, but that one's gone again).
I hope this counts for the BB. Photos of both lines.


Indoor laundry line, with towels drying


Outdoor laundry line with bathroom rug drying
 
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Unfortunately Inge this BB is specific to setting up a drying line, not just using one. Luckily the Nesting aspect of PEP has lots of options for BBs so you do not have to set up another drying line to get the badge.
 
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Ashley Cottonwood wrote:Unfortunately Inge this BB is specific to setting up a drying line, not just using one. Luckily the Nesting aspect of PEP has lots of options for BBs so you do not have to set up another drying line to get the badge.


Yes, unfortunately ... I hope to be able to do 8 of those things from the Jeeves list. I did 5 now (or 6, but this one did not count)
 
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The first clothesline fell down. Wet clothes are heavy! Who knew...

This second should be much better.

Mostly the same materials,
- metal-core clothesline
- hooks & pulleys
- turnbuckles
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Materials
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Playing pull the clothesline
Playing pull the clothesline
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Clothes on the line
Clothes on the line
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25' from the west fence to the orange towel, it's probably the same again to the east hook
25' from the west fence to the orange towel, it's probably the same again to the east hook
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The whole line, pre clothes
The whole line, pre clothes
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The other end of the line
The other end of the line
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Hello, I have installed at least 30 feet of permanent clothes line.  In fact it is roughly 60 feet, unless you count the top line as feet, in which case it is roughly 118 feet. I used discarded things I found around, such as posts and mulch, but the rope I brought with me.  It's great rope.  I'm sad to lose 118 feet of it, but not *that* sad.

Here are some of the materials that went into it:



Here are progress pics of the posts set up to receive the laundry lines:





Stringing the line taut, which I did an ok but not stellar job of:



Here is the finished 118 feet of clothesline:



And here it is with clothes on it, only they're not clothes.  Unless I'm playing Superman.



I now feel better prepared to accomplish the "do laundry by hand" BB.

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Hoo boy don't get me started. I also do not like the dyed mulch.  It was dumped onto the field next to my yard by people who treat that as a dumping ground.  (As you'll see soon in my "cleaning up after tresspassers" BB.)  So with great trepidation and irritation I looked it up and the dye is rust.  Also, if it is MSC Certified (which this is) it has not been sourced from toxic waste materials from construction.  I've had this mulch many moons and really don't want to use it, so this was the first application I felt ok with.
 
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Here is my submission for the Nest - Sand - Jeeves List - Install 30 Feet of Permanent Clothes Line BB.

To document the completion of the BB, I have provided:
   - a picture of the materials for installing the clothesline
   - an in-progress picture halfway through the installation
   - an action shot of clothes hanging on the clothesline that is obviously more than 30 feet long
   

I used four trees as anchor points and installed four eyebolts.  The finished clothesline length is almost 90-ft long.  The line sections are (approximately) 15' to the left, 22' to the right and the two on the far sides of the 'square' are over 25' long each.  There is a small (4 person) picnic table to help with scale near the towel in the last picture.  Note: I used/installed one piece of 100-ft clothesline - not two 50-footers.  
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Drill, clothes pins, eye bolts, and clothesline rope
Drill, clothes pins, eye bolts, and clothesline rope
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Predrill holes and install eye bolts - I like the 'opening' to be up
Predrill holes and install eye bolts - I like the 'opening' to be up
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affixing the midpoint of the rope to an eye bolt - then used truckers hitch at the other end
affixing the midpoint of the rope to an eye bolt - then used truckers hitch at the other end
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a big square of clothes lines installed with a towel on the nearest line and a sweater on the far side.
a big square of clothes lines installed with a towel on the nearest line and a sweater on the far side.
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Here is my submission! Hope it's up to scratch
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Tools and materials selected
Tools and materials selected
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It looks like some one had the same idea as us in the past and so all I'm really doing is putting it back where it was!
It looks like some one had the same idea as us in the past and so all I'm really doing is putting it back where it was!
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The location selected
The location selected
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But first a bit of pruning/tidying up
But first a bit of pruning/tidying up
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How the anchors were installed
How the anchors were installed
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Installing the line w/ a bit of help from the lady
Installing the line w/ a bit of help from the lady
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And the final product. If I had to guess there is at least 10ft between each tree and about 10-12 spans so quite a long line if I do say so myself
And the final product. If I had to guess there is at least 10ft between each tree and about 10-12 spans so quite a long line if I do say so myself
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In typical fashion I was doing a project on my to do list without checking before hand if it was a BB... here's the final result of some cloth lines I setup in the laundry/storage room.  We already have a dehumidifier going here so it just works out pretty well
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Equipment
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One end of the line
One end of the line
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Other end with dehumidifier in picture
Other end with dehumidifier in picture
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Note: Is that really 30' long?  Do you have the "in progress" pic?  Also the pic needs clothes hanging on it.  Sorry

 
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Do you want me to take it back apart just for the pictures?

It's not hard to drill pilot holes and then put the hardware in...
 
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I'd already made a clothesline, and so just took mine apart and took pictures. You could untie one of your knots, take a picture, and then turn it into a  tautline hitch, which will allow you to tighten the clothesline. This is really helpful, because the lines sag and stretch underweight.



And then put clothes on the line and snap a picture!
 
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Trying this again... the lines were 12ft long each so they also weren't long enough.  I put another 12ft line in bringing it to 36ft total.

First load is working out well!
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Pilot hole drilling
Pilot hole drilling
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Screwing the eye hardware in
Screwing the eye hardware in
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All 3 finished
All 3 finished
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First load!
First load!
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I renewed my clothes line today as the paracord was all perished and sagging. I ended up re-using a section of it (after removing the frayed and perished outside) as the rope I was using to replace it was too short. I replaced the line with some more paracord that I dug out of a drawer and disposed of the old stuff before it could disintegrate into microplastic (a small portion of it was coconut fiber rope so that is now in the compost heap!).

The garden is about 18m in length and the line a little over 10m (32 ft). I've included a screenshot of Google Maps and their "measure distance" function to help illustrate this.

Edit: added photo of clothes on new line
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Materials for new line
Materials for new line
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Halfway (too short!)
Halfway (too short!)
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Adding more rope
Adding more rope
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Tying off other end
Tying off other end
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Done!
Done!
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Before - saggy...
Before - saggy...
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...and broken
...and broken
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10m = 32 ft
10m = 32 ft
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Old, worn-out line
Old, worn-out line
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Space for new line
Space for new line
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Clothes on line
Clothes on line
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Ah, my bad, I didn't read the list of required photos clearly enough. I've just washed a few things, hung them out and taken a photo which I've added to the [edited] post, above.
 
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I wanted to make the most of having a warm boiler room in the winter to dry clothes. We’ve used drying racks in this space but we are limited by the size of items we can dry. Today I installed four 3m lines = 12m = 39ft.

I fixed four metal eye plates to a wooden beam and four to the external brick wall. I used up some line I had left over from installing an outside line and some para-cord from my camping supplies.

Here are my pictures.
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Does the clothesline have to be made of a rope/line material, or could it be made of wire?
 
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I think a wire would count as a line.  Might want to think about if it would rust and stain the clothes....
 
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I made a clothes line inside cuz it rains here more often than not.
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16ft there and back
16ft there and back
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connection side
connection side
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parts I used. the ferrules didn't work for me so I switched to the nuts you can see above
parts I used. the ferrules didn
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doing its thing
doing its thing
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