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Summary

Paul meets up with 6 people who’ve supported the SKIP Kickstarter at $65 or higher (including Alan Booker) to talk about getting permaculture produce into grocery stores.

Some ways that a permie can make money with apples:  1: Sell to sell to commodity apple sellers.  You won’t get much, you’ll have to grow specific varieties, but you’ll have less overhead from the lack of pesticides.  You can try to sell apples branded as permacultureal to them, but they’ll probably brush you off.  2: Take the apples to a Saturday/farmers market, sell for less than the other farmers and get a tidy profit.  3: Like 2, but also sell people on the better quality of permaculture/polyculture and become the go-to for that type of apple.  Then increase the price as you sell out faster (ironically, this could be considered the Apple strategy, as in the phone manufacturer).  4: Apple-of-the-month.  Send out a monthly box of their apple varieties.  5: Same, as 4, but add a story and information leaflet to the box telling people what the apple is, how it’s grown, what to use it for, etc.  6: Sell to organic co-ops.  7: Honor stand at the end of the driveway/nearest road.  8: Like 7, but also advertise the benefits of permaculture at the stand.  9: Do as Sepp does – build a very strong brand and charge for tours showing off the land and produce, how to grow as he does, and however much produce and seeds as you can carry.  10: Set up a permaculture sanctuary and charge people to stay and build with you.  As the project develops, raise the price.  11: A smorgasbord of trades – sell to neighbors, let a pig farmer use his pigs to clear away fallen apples for a pig, etc.  11 Group up and sell communally.  12: As with 11, but also trade with the others for mutual profit.

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