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Being bonkers about permaculture is a bit rare.  And when friends try to set you up, you realize that you really prefer to find somebody that has similar permaculture values.  

There are some people that attend two PDCs and several workshops every year, not only because they thoroughly enjoy it (it feeds their soul), but also because they meet the ONLY people that seem like a possible fit.   Unfortunately, most of the people at the events are not available or not quite the right fit, but these people are far, far closer than the alternatives.  It is clear that it is just matter of time until the right person is found.




Permaculture Design Courses

men and women at permaculture design courses PDC


There are about a hundred, all over the world, each year.  Two weeks of living with a group of people all studying the same thing.  While most people attend just one or two for their entire life, some people have been to a dozen.  Most of their lives are spent with non-permies and so two weeks with people that understand them is a welcome vacation.   And each PDC has a slightly different flavor, so it is a little like getting a whole new experience.  

Permies.com keeps a free list of all permaculture design courses here.

Wheaton Labs offers a PDC for scientists and engineers here.




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men and women at permaculture design courses PDC


Permies.com keeps a free list of all workshops here.

Wheaton Labs offers a PTJ (Permaculture Technology Jamboree) for learning and experimenting with permaculture and homesteading technology, here.


There's a lot of other types of workshops out there, too:  

  - natural building
  - PTJ
  - regional events like tree planting
  - community gardening classes
  - SKIP
  - master gardener course (like this one)
  - hugelkultur/gardening classes
  - local weekend workshop
  - four week long national workshops or conferences
  - "barn raising" events where you help build a natural building an learn a lot in the process

Host your own PDC or workshop?

What are some other ideas for in-person permaculture events you could meet someone like-minded at?

What kind of events would you be more likely to encounter lots of ladies? Which ones would you meet more guys?
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Years back, there was this thread called Where's all the dudes? It seemed like a lot of the volunteer opportunities had a large percentage of women.
 
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Sonja Draven wrote:
Host your own PDC or workshop?
What are some other ideas for in-person permaculture events you could meet someone like-minded at?
What kind of events would you be more likely to encounter lots of ladies? Which ones would you meet more guys?



From my view as a single guy. The biggest issue is time, I have a forty hours a week job and getting time off can be hard for a lot of reasons. Yes, in a heart beat I would go to a PDC or workshop if I had the time off.  For me a one or two day event would be about right.  Trying to explain to a boss that you would like to have two weeks in a row off is hard. Summer for me is a busy time. Fall or winter for me is the best time to take time off and go to an event.
 
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My question would be "how do we create more permie events locally -- where a like-minded group could get together frequently and maybe come up with a STEM style way to teach permaculture type stuff where even us newbies could support, learn, and grow.  And maybe find a similarly aged and interested person with whom to build a set of whatevers that we'd like to make part of the fabric of our local ruralities, towns, and small cities, etc.

I think the hardest part is pure economics -- the difficulty of people from diverse places being able to meet and greet enough for one or both people to decide to commit and move.  My belief is also we've become more than a little bit gun shy, I think.  Not so much about the commitment, but at least in my own experience:  I don't know that we'all remember how to become and stay sweethearts with each other.

What do y'all think? Could we build this kind of meeting space in many many different towns and small cities if we pilot projected a good one, and showed that it would work?

 
 
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I made a post in the singles forum years ago and connected with 2 people but nothing serious ever came out of it. I find myself contemplating my relationship status a lot right now and i do wish there were permaculture mixers I could go to. Even if they were on zoom it would be nice to connect with like minded people. I'm in a Permaculture dead zone which makes it even worse. (Insert insult aimed at the state of ct here!) Honestly I'm hoping to meet someone at a farmers market since I'm trying to cut back on the phone usage but the odds are slim, guess i better start hoping for fate to intervene lol
 
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A farmers market-- that is brilliant... Because that's the exact audience/group where we need to grow. i have a rather brilliant gardening friend who could help me turn that into a doable! Will post a bit more after chatting with her.
 
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Nicole Alderman wrote:Years back, there was this thread called Where's all the dudes? It seemed like a lot of the volunteer opportunities had a large percentage of women.



That’s pretty much my experience 😊

And the token man is married!
 
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Paul Ellsworth wrote:My question would be "how do we create more permie events locally -- where a like-minded group could get together frequently and maybe come up with a STEM style way to teach permaculture type stuff where even us newbies could support, learn, and grow.  And maybe find a similarly aged and interested person with whom to build a set of whatevers that we'd like to make part of the fabric of our local ruralities, towns, and small cities, etc.

I think the hardest part is pure economics -- the difficulty of people from diverse places being able to meet and greet enough for one or both people to decide to commit and move.  My belief is also we've become more than a little bit gun shy, I think.  Not so much about the commitment, but at least in my own experience:  I don't know that we'all remember how to become and stay sweethearts with each other.

What do y'all think? Could we build this kind of meeting space in many many different towns and small cities if we pilot projected a good one, and showed that it would work?

 



I did a PDC in the hope of meeting someone but there wasn’t anyone single/in my age range. Even if you had the time, it’s a small chance with a lot of inconvenience and expense.

Regular smaller events are probably a better way to go - you can fit them in and it means you can get to know people over a period of time. Hasn’t worked for me yet but then I always needed to take my daughter with me, which created a different dynamic.
 
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William Hiers wrote:I made a post in the singles forum years ago and connected with 2 people but nothing serious ever came out of it. I find myself contemplating my relationship status a lot right now and i do wish there were permaculture mixers I could go to. Even if they were on zoom it would be nice to connect with like minded people. I'm in a Permaculture dead zone which makes it even worse. (Insert insult aimed at the state of ct here!) Honestly I'm hoping to meet someone at a farmers market since I'm trying to cut back on the phone usage but the odds are slim, guess i better start hoping for fate to intervene lol



I joined PIRN (Permaculture International Research Network) not only because l’m interested in research, though I am interested in it. Nothing much was happening in the network until just before Christmas when an enterprising member said ‘Hey, let’s get this group moving with a zoom call’. We’ll be having our second this coming Friday and then another in a couple of weeks or so.

When asked at the first meeting, what we most wanted from PIRN, guess what the no. 1 response was? More zoom calls!
 
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I like the farmer's market idea.  I started a Homesteading Club in my area and it has brought together a lot of people.  If I were single it might be a way to catch a partner.  On paper you might say that my area is a permaculture dead zone as well but once you start talking to people about it, they come out of the woodwork.  My little homesteading club has 170 emails on the mailing list after two years.  It's lead to building a a Community Garden that also would be a good place to find like minded people.

If you build it, they will come
 
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I gave up on that years ago. I only found the opposing poles...either too conventional or too extreme. The former became boring with no imagination. The latter are oft so outlandish that you know they're trying to prove something, and heading for a fall.

I'm developing my land for teaching and glamping, so as I can continue with producing land based art and experimenting with natural building, whilst not needing to go offland to earn a living. Maybe I'll cross paths with a match via what I'm facilitating, but I'm now at peace enough to not be bothered if I continue as I am. Lesson here : if you're not comfy with solitude, you'll always be needy/co-dependent, and that's not healthy.
 
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My question would be, why not set up events which are specifically designed for singles?  How would you do that without it degenerating into some kind of swingers event?  Singles cruises are a thing, for example. If word got out that PDCs are a hunting ground for singles, it might become rather off-putting for those who are attending for the course content!  
 
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A lot of people go to church in part because they're hoping they'll meet someone of a similar ideology. But, that doesn't stop non-single people from going. Maybe a single person never meets a match at church, but they still learned something. The same, I think, applies to a permaculture event. If I were single, I'd much go to an event to learn something, than just one aimed at singles. If you go to a normal event, you come away with having learned something you wanted to learn, even if you didn't meet someone you wanted to meet.
 
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Niall Wildwoode wrote:Lesson here : if you're not comfy with solitude, you'll always be needy/co-dependent, and that's not healthy.



Good point!
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