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Summary

Paul sits back down with Eliot once again to continue talking about his farming experience and contrast them with Paul’s.

Back when Paul first visited Eliot and heard that Eliot wanted to buy land, his response was of bewilderment – if you want to save the world, convince 8 people to build Rocket Mass Heaters instead.  4 years later, and Eliot is starting to believe Paul had a point – if he kidnapped Ernie from up the road and invested the cost of the land into developing it, he’d be well on the road to having an operational Rocket Mass Heater / Stove company.

Paul wanted land so that he could live in an abundance of life, be able to eat better quality food that wasn’t covered in gick, and encourage more people to do something similar and surpass him.  Eliot on the other hand decided that having land would be a good thing, Portland was supposed to be resistant to climate change, and after the 2016 election he decided that he’d have to do something to save the world because those people aren’t going to.   Also he had an inheritance and he’d be damned if he just sent it off to Wall Street where the house always wins, and if he put it into an index, he’d still be fuelling the system.

Both Paul and Eliot agree that a lot of the carbon footprint conversation has been poisoned by corporate interests to deflect attention and responsibility away from themselves and onto sending letters to politicians, which they totally read.  Part of the reason Eliot bought the land was to demonstrate that the system can be improved in terms of carbon emissions without sacrifice and provide a myriad of other benefits, like sequestering carbon to improve forest health and efficiency.

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Podcast 590 - Gardening v Farming
Podcast 589 - Julia (and Eliot's) Farm

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