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Paul sits down with Ashley to continue the smackdown that was supposed to be reviewing Building a Better World, but instead have a good natter about SKIP and their experience with PDCs.

Ashley currently owns half an acre of land in Canada and wants to expand somewhat so that she can grow food for her livestock instead of breaking the bank buying it in.  Being Canadian means she can’t get land from American Otises due to government regulation, but there’s an old friend of her parents that might be willing to will theirs to her if she makes a good impression, and maybe leaves a few copies of the book lying around.

In Paul’s yet-to-be-published permaculture thorns book, there’s a chapter on about a guy called Andy who joined a community of people who all had PDC certification with the idea that they’d make a permaculture paradise together,  but pretty much all involved seemed to be of the mindset of getting him to make if for them while they drank lemonade.  While that attitude isn’t necessarily a problem, it does seem to be a common trait with people who get PDC certs, and to such an extent that Ashley’s old instructor stopped teaching because they got to be so prevalent.  Since transitioning to a more technical focus for his PDCs, Paul has noticed that the quality of people that show up to them has increased quite substantially – apparently people that spend a lot of time being rude and complaining don’t become engineers or scientists.

Paul hopes that the physical investment required for PEP certification will help filter out that particular demographic and thus a community of mostly PEP certified people would be much more likely to make a successful permaculture paradise.

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