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My New Viking Welding hood

 
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Hi All;  As many of you know I have started a RMH business.
Building the metal pieces needed for batchbox's & J tube RMH's. This of course requires welding.
I learned to weld as a teenager.  Being a mechanic required at least knowing how.
I never considered myself a good welder (having worked around pipefitters) but I could stick things together and although not pretty my weld's held up just fine.
I still have my very first welding hood and another just like it. Very small non opening  view port and a flip hood.  
Those hoods both still can do the job. Just not for me anymore!
I bought a super cheap auto darken hood a while back. I figured that with as much welding as I did no reason to buy a $100 one...
As my first auto darken hood I "thought" it was great!  Man how cool! You can see before you strike an arc!

And then I opened Dragon tech... suddenly I was welding every day. No longer a crane operator or mechanic...  now I am a metal fabricator!
I need my welds to look good as well as hold up.  Being 61 closing fast on 62 my eyesight is not what it used to be.  
My brother in Idaho is a top notch welder.   He came over one day and after listening to me whine and looking at my welds. He told me throw that piece of junk hood away and buy a quality hood with magnifying lenses.... you can't weld good when you can't see... hmmm I'm afraid he is right! It sucks getting old!

So I went on the hunt for a new welding hood.
My goodness is there a lot of choices.  Most in the $75-100 range.  But there were higher quality, new tech hoods out there, they ran from $200-400!!! OH MY!
I continued researching.  I narrowed my search down to Hobart , Miller or Lincoln electric.
I finally settled on the Lincoln Electric Viking 3350. Their newest model with super large view port and new high tech clarity while welding.    On sale, in plain jane black ,it was still $224 delivered  OUCH!

OMG this thing is like magic!  Super comfy , really lite weight, incredible view before striking an arc, but it really shines once you start welding! Man you can see the puddle, EASY!
My welds improved immediately!  I called my brother to thank him. After telling him what I had bought. He had to give me shit about some dang equipment operator / mechanic has a better welding hood than he does!  I expect to see a new hood at his house next time I visit... no doubt just a little bit better than mine.

Bottom line, It pays to buy quality! Oh and like I said, it sucks to grow old!











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That has been my experience as well.  I try to avoid middle of the road. It seldom satisfies any need.  I try to save for higher quality (not that I always know what high quality is when I look at it), or I get the cheapest that will do .... with the idea of dumping it when I can afford high quality...or using it as a backup.  
 
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One thing I can add, is that if there's a possibility of using a TIG welder in the future, the cheap auto-darkening hoods will not trigger the darkening circuit, so it could save a person money in the long run to buy a good one.
 
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As a beginner welder I've got a cheap amazon helmet that does the job for me. That thing looks gorgeous though and sounds like it's a blast to use!! Enjoy :)
 
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Hi Cam,
Indeed, I am not much of a welder. I have the cheapest welding equipment that will do the job.
 
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Great review Thomas.  I have one of those auto-darkening $100 helmets as well. Great for the occasional welding I do but good to know when to spend the money on something that is just more than a safety issue. The button on the side of that helmet that takes away the auto-darkening feature when you begin to grind is a nice feature too so you can see what your grinding better, yet be way more protected by flying sparks than simple safety glasses. Curious though, if you forget to push the button again back to auto-darkening mode, when you begin to weld you would be seeing spots for an hour afterwards?
 
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Gerry Parent wrote: Curious though, if you forget to push the button again back to auto-darkening mode, when you begin to weld you would be seeing spots for an hour afterwards?




If you're really, really lucky.
 
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Gerry Parent wrote: Curious though, if you forget to push the button again back to auto-darkening mode, when you begin to weld you would be seeing spots for an hour afterwards?



In my experience, yes something like that, but your mileage may vary. I have a budget auto-darkening helmet, and a MIG welder. I believe that the setting was not set right as it has dials to turn both inside the helmet on the viewing lens and also a knob on the side of the helmet. I started a bead and it didn't auto darken, and I had a blue-green spot in my vision for a little while. The saving grace, I believe, is the viewing lens has a coating on it and while I don't know the details about the coating it does block/reflect UV rays, which is why I think I got away lucky with seeing a spot and not flashing my retina with painful eye damage.

 
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Hi All ; Just an update.
Talked to my brother yesterday...  seems he has a new welding hood... imagine that... same model as mine but his has cool graphics   B.F.D.  doesn't work any better than mine does!
Yes Gerry you MUST push the button again and hold it until lights flash under the hood.  If you just push the button...  yes, you can flash yourself! Nope no spots I cheated and squinted before pulling the trigger.
Cam, as a beginner welder your amazon hood will do the job.  Especially if you still have good eyesight!
HOWEVER I strongly recommend saving and buying a top of the line hood as soon as you can.
The better you can see, the better your welds will stand up to xray.  Pass those welding tests and you have a job worth having!

Being able to see my weld puddle clearly again has made a huge difference for me.  My welds are starting to look like pipefitter welds!
Of course using the Mig machine daily instead of a stick welder helps immensely!
Next I will have to upgrade to a gas machine and get rid of that unsightly splatter...  Oh My, how my standards have risen!
 
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Look what I got!! A Miller Digital Infinity helmet. It's like watching my weld on a giant flatscreen TV and it is amazing. It isn't TOP top of the line but it's one level below. For me it is a vast improvement over my old amazon one.  It's got something called x-mode too which sounds like a gimmick but actually works very well. It senses the magnetic field coming off the weld and autodarkens then, but will not autodarken if the helmet is pointed at other bright sources of light such as shop lights or the sun. Is it ever great.

For the past few weeks I was using a passive helmet, and now going back to an auto darkening helmet (and a great one at that) is sooo nice. I'm in a welding program at my local college right now and this helmet will do me very well. For the course and for years to come! $467 CAD well spent I'd say

*Edit I figured I'd tag along on this thread instead of starting a new one.
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very nice, back in the "dark ages" when I got to attend welding school state of the art hoods had a flip up lens that was about 2"x4".
 
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Cam;
Sweet hood!   You are never going to regret buying it!
Like you said its welding with a flat screen TV.
When it comes to tools of the trade buying the best you can afford is always a good choice!
ENJOY!
 
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thomas rubino wrote:
Cam;
Sweet hood!   You are never going to regret buying it!
Like you said its welding with a flat screen TV.
When it comes to tools of the trade buying the best you can afford is always a good choice!
ENJOY!



Thanks Thomas! It has made a huge difference. I am flying through my exercises at welding school now because I can see VERY clearly what the arc and puddle are doing which is helping immensely. :)

bruce Fine wrote:
very nice, back in the "dark ages" when I got to attend welding school state of the art hoods had a flip up lens that was about 2"x4".



I spent a couple weeks with one of those old school ones...actually not too bad once I got used to the 'flick' motion to get it down. I did accidentally flash myself though when I had my hand holding the stinger too close to my head. When I flicked the helmet down it hit my hand, so my vision wasn't protected. In hitting my hand, it touched the electrode to the plate and started the arc. It was probably only a couple hundredths of a second where I got flashed but OUCH is that ever bright. Sure makes me appreciate a good auto darkening helmet. Lol.



 
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