new sub-forum ? Please? " Seed Banks, Seed Libraries, Personal Seed Collections, ETC" ?

Hello Friends,

Awesome site. YES! Thank you.

I have a quandary, a question.

I have searched this site for the correct person with whom to correspond on the topic below, but came away unsure who would be best to correspond with.

I would like to take part of the content from my singles advert (!!! SM 69 still very active. Citizen of extreme NW Cascadia ) and copy it to a reasonable place in the GROWIES forum, but I do not see that place. Could a new sub-forum be created to house discussions of "Seed Banks, Seed Libraries, Personal Seed Collections, ETC" ?

I cannot promise to add content very often but I will write stuff there as I have time. In addition to the gardening and ordinary seed saving I did since a at least 10yo child, I do have some 35+ years experience collecting seeds and ending up with more than 1000 accessions that are regularly grown out. These are the basis for the Orcas Island Community Seed Bank. The OICSB has also managed the Orcas Island Seed Library for years. I do have some small official training in seed bank management, in addition to plant breeding, etc.

I believe this is a topic that many people would be interested in that has no home as yet on Permies.

Cheers
Dan

https://permies.com/f/234/seed

https://permies.com/f/19/resources

And more regional https://permies.com/c/3

Hello Friends

I guess I could have been more clear. I previously had found and read most of the pages of those above posted links and more on Permies. I guess you would not be able to track that I did read them as most of that reading was done before I had joined. Those posts definitely are of interest to me, but they do not suit the topic that I believe has merit.

In replies to my singles post Kevin Wilson spoke to my founding of the OISB and that subject could 1) derail my singles post, 2) go on back and forth quite well as I, Kevin, and others have a lot to say and muse upon that has not to my knowledge been commented on here in Permies. I believe quite a number of others could also contribute, but if it were stuffed into a tomato breeding discussion or just left in my singles post, who would benefit?

What I am asking for is not a further discussion of breeding or saving vegetable seed-- for example, spinach or tomato seed, or how to save wheat, chestnut, or other staple crop seed-- annual or perennial, rather what are the issues in obtaining seed that is not in the open market, how much seed does one receive from an international or national seed bank and why, what happens when one brings seed in from outside of their own country, the typology of seed banks ( international, national, professional breeders, community, and personal seed banks; and seed libraries) all with different modes of operation and goals, why some community seed banks or seed libraries prosper and some do not. Why do these things matter?

Again I apologize in advance for forgetting some relevant point that I will think of as soon as there is another response or in the middle of the night.

Cheers
Dan

Dan Borman wrote:
What I am asking for is not a further discussion of breeding or saving vegetable seed-- for example, spinach or tomato seed, or how to save wheat, chestnut, or other staple crop seed-- annual or perennial, rather what are the issues in obtaining seed that is not in the open market, how much seed does one receive from an international or national seed bank and why, what happens when one brings seed in from outside of their own country, the typology of seed banks ( international, national, professional breeders, community, and personal seed banks; and seed libraries) all with different modes of operation and goals, why some community seed banks or seed libraries prosper and some do not. Why do these things matter?

A discussion like that sounds like it would fit perfectly in the seeds and breeding forum, which covers

Seed saving, seed exchange, where to buy seeds, plant breeding, and propagation.

We only have so much room to make the forum names, that we choose the broadest name and then describe it better in the, um, description.  

Most of the forums have a bit of text at the top describing what the forum is about and a link to the main threads on that topic.  Take this forum:  https://permies.com/f/11/tnk

The words are: "comments, questions and rude gestures about the permaculture forums. and a place to talk about paul wheaton's plans for world domination"  followed by a series of important links.


When there are enough threads on a specific topic, we then split them off into their own forum.  For example, we now have an "apple tree" forum which split from "fruit trees".

"Seed Banks, Seed Libraries, Personal Seed Collections, ETC"

That sounds exactly like the kind of topic that the Seed and Breeding forum was made for.  

When there's enough content in that forum, we might split it off into a series of different forums.  But we need the content first.  

I am sorry.

Why would you imply by using that link that I am trying to be rude?

She isn't. She's explaining that each sub-forum has a little description that helps explain what sort of discussion fits there.

It is nearly painful to search "seed banks" or "seed bank" on permies because many or most of the results are about "soil seed banks". At that rate I doubt I would be able to find my own post if I made it nor any of the responses by others.

Dan  you might try modifying the search to 'exact phrase' entered and 'subject' only and more might show?  I saw a few 'seed bank' threads that were about seed banks, not soil seed banks.

Your posts and replies to any thread will be easy to find at your profile where there will be a list of threads that you began and others that you have posted in.

There is also an option where you can receive an email when ever someone responds to your thread and also any other thread you choose to follow.  Some of those settings are in your profile, and some right at the topic page under 'watch' settings.

We can also 'watch' a whole forum...I think that setting is at the particular forum.

There are other options that would help someone find your posts...one is that we can 'follow' a member and will get notifications by email whenever they post something anywhere on the site.

Maybe just start a thread on your topic, or two or three with clear concise subject lines in the available forums (a topic can be in several at once) and folks will find you.  The threads that are hard to find are the ones with cryptic funny or cute titles but no real clue to the content...some arouse curiosity though so we have to look in spite of ourselves

One more...there is an option to receive an email notice if some one mentions a certain word, or phrase.  Many of us have it set to our name but it can be a subject, a location...anything.

hey dan, as noted above, there is a ‘seeds and breeding’ sub forum under growies that is the natural home of the content you’re talking about. maybe start a thread there about seed banks in general for your discussion, that will be available in the future for whatever updates on the topic, or make it as specific as you want if you’re just trying to continue the discussion from your other thread for now.

or are you asking that the material on seed banks from your other thread get split out to start your new thread?

All

Over a period of several years I have actually read most of the posts in the SEED AND BREEDING sub-forum. I sometimes find one that looks interestingly like I have not seen it, but when I open it I find that I have read it already. That is how interested and invested I am. Really! I am geek- nurd- obsessed. Permies is the only forum in general  that I even begin to feel well I hesitate to say "normal" in my interests and beliefs, because even here I am pretty out there.

I will try to post in said / suggested sub-forum and see what happens.

I was not clear on the first point and thanks Greg for catching that. I wanted to know how to divert the SEED BANK ETC conversation to a different sub-forum. Now I have decided to copy/paste from my singles post the material that gives a natural lead into the SEED BANK ETC topic.

So for now I guess I will deal with both issues in the above ways.

Dan

Hi Dan,
Sounds like you have it figured out. Post a new thread in Growies about Seed Banks and then be ready for all those interested responding.