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oliver moss wrote:What were you growing that only produced 500 euros?
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-cheap plants (even our nursery, which is cheap, in the end was too expensive)
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John Polk wrote:
-cheap plants (even our nursery, which is cheap, in the end was too expensive)
Ouch. I believe that if you are to show a profit from annuals, you need to start from seed (early !).
Even at wholesale, started plants cost too high of a percentage to yield suitable profits.
Asparagus is very high on our priority list, it goes for 9 euros a kilo.
William James wrote:@John
thanks. lots of good suggestions. Asparagus is very high on our priority list, it goes for 9 euros a kilo. We're still going to seed annuals as part of our perennial polyculture planting design, but just for us really. If we have a surplus, ok, but it's no longer an objective.
For some reason people shy away from growing artichoke here. Maybe we're too north. It grows a crappy head, even when done by the local organic farmer with experience.
We're going to mimic our pioneer perennials that want to live here. That's black locust, elderberry, black-berry (thornless), wild cherry hawthorn (also to graft), hazelnut, chestnut. These things can be found for free and do well. Going to get an estimate for attaching water to the bigger 2.5 acres just to see the costs.
Microgreens sell for 16-20 euros for something (a seed tray) that takes 1.20 euros to grow. Even if we give restaurants huge price cuts we're coming out far ahead of the game. Plus people buy them just out of curiosity and restaurants seem to want something new. We're trying to outpace the fashion of microgreens while building the perennial polyculture that will be harvestable 5 years out. By the time microgreens are out the window, we'll already have something more dependable to sell.
We're experimenting with mass-selecting trees this year, a technique I really think will come in handy. It's a super-cheap way to decide who stays and who doesn't.
William
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John Polk wrote:
You're near Roma, aren't you? The equivalent of USDA zone 9. Tons of possibilities if water isn't too big an issue.
Mike Cantrell wrote:Basil thrives with poor soil and drought-like conditions, and then it brings prices similar to microgreens, at least here. Perhaps it could be your moneymaker?
Dan Tutor wrote:
How much farming or gardening experience did you have before starting this endeavor ?
It may take some time (like 5 years) to discover what works for you in a particular environment.
Cut your self some slack, learn from your mistakes, and try again, but above all, enjoy!
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William James wrote:
oliver moss wrote:What were you growing that only produced 500 euros?
We had boxed veggies, whatever was available. Sometimes mixed with figs or grapes. Selling for 3 euros a kilo.
Most of the usuals:
Fava beans, a few peas, onions, leeks, Lots of Tomatos, no peppers - nursery gave us the wrong variety, salad, boiling greens like chard, celery, a few herbs. Like I said, sales were no problem. Producing enough was the problem. People were waiting at the door to buy.
In my opinion, to be successful you need, minimum,
-an acre, better 1.5 acres.
-a small tractor + secure tractor storage
-weed eater
-mower attachment for tractor
-a drip irrigation system for some/most plants that comes from a spout
-easy access to mulch material, chip especially but also straw and compost
-2 medium-sized greenhouses for season extension
-a roto-tiller
-enough cheap water to last you through 3-4 months of drought
-a lot of good luck with the weather.
-a few water tanks
-cheap seed
-cheap plants (even our nursery, which is cheap, in the end was too expensive)
That would probably assure you something near the production needed to overcome the annual investment and would allow you to produce relatively easily. We got nowhere with a fork and a hoe and buckets of water.
William
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