Robert Ray

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Just used one similar Ceiling support bracket for between the studs. In my case mounting a ceiling fan.
1 day ago
I'm tired boss, can't intelligently answer without the full meal deal. This is becoming a circular conversation that will have no end without getting more data. Wishing you success Kevin.
2 days ago
Oy Kevin, We all want to see you succeed. But to get solid input will help us.

Just to solidify.

What is your experience with cattle? What is your experience with farming?  No previous experience isn't a bad thing a solid plan will be needed.

You have not yet been on site.

High mountain strip mine? Is the strip mines area on the flat? You mentioned amount of material removed? Cessation of mining requires restoration in the US. What does amount of material removed mean. Was the site not restored?

What construction disturbance was caused with a proposed data center not on the property? If the disturbance of a proposed data center is so great that it has influenced the aquifer it is was more than proposed. In reference to the project site, proximity and topography of the disturbed proposed data center location would help. Extent and type of disturbance? Dunal aquifers in the area with an aquitard have relatively shallow depths. You haven't mentioned dunes so I am assuming that the ground is not purely sand. Non Dunal areas have a much deeper depth to aquifer depending on location and geology up to several hundred meters deep.

Your water rights you have explained come from a river. Are you also drawing by well from the aquifer? That would be an important piece of information.

10k of flat ground great, now how much more is added with the mountainous component. What an incredible addition to the scope of the property, and its potential.

A poster from Australia asked a question and in your comment you said "Do you follow Federal Policy much" being from outside the US he probably doesn't. But he does live in an arid climate and probably has on the ground real time/experience for input.

What diseases are you concerned with? I still fail to see the Stamet connection and the need in the initial proof of concept with your project. There is no current Ecoli issue and if it does become one then you can implement mushroom remediation. Something that can be stacked on should the need arise as your AU's increase.

40 mil budget. "Yes the works" What does that mean? 40 mill absolute budget. Absolute budget meaning that is it in total. Or 40 mil plus? If it is 40 mil plus what is the plus? Equipment, housing, cattle?

Wow more than 1AU per acre. An incredible goal.

Ok first year, what do you see happening. Your first step.

Can you share with me how plant oxidation and the imprinting of grass seeds will increase fire hazard. The papers indicate the opposite to date. The imprinting depression help retain surface water and green vegetation. Savory and the return of cattle to a grazing site is a bit different than the imprinting reference.

It sounds like a State of Emergency Flood Plain would be something entirely different from what you are looking for. Addressing local erosion on private property might need some type of permitting but if it does not meet those emergency standards a declaration of an emergency in all likelihood would not happen and not open up the State or Fed wallets. Depending on the State, funds might be available to address erosion issues.

What State, Holy Moly, water rights, available grants, legal hurdles, all are different in NM, AZ, TX. What State Kevin?

You indicate that there is an NDA once you begin how is that Non Disclosure Act going to impact your project. How is that NDA impacting your research? It hampers getting answers here. Did the NDA have any issue with your conversation with the County Clerk? When does the NDA conclude. Maybe asking for input with an NDA currently in place is too soon.


Circular answers don't help. "The mountains are larger than a MN ski mountain", doesn't give us any help. How much more mountain property is now included? Some little tid bit of topography.
How the river flows through the site, relationship of river path and flat vs mountain.

I'm sure your mind is racing with a project this size. Don't add on components that are not an immediate issue. Ecoli and mushroom remediation is not something in the mix yet. Erosion is something that might be addressed as you determine how you are going to direct water. Erosion might be addressed as you work in the new mountain component. Boots on the ground and an in-person assessment will be great.


2 days ago
Ahhh. I thought we were experiencing some kind of Star Trek Vulcan mind connection. It is an interesting concept, we use a similar imprint roller to force gravel into the road beds here for maintenance. It is like a asphalt roller but with the imprint drum instead of a smooth drum Self propelled not a towed drum.
2 days ago
Kevin, for me there are some important info that seems to keep changing. I understand this project is still on paper. My confusion still exists:

Have you been on site yet?

Strip  mine like, the initial description, or a truly reclaimed strip mine that would have to have been covered with the original topsoil and plants upon cessation of mining. In the US the site is required to be  restored to a contour has to be above or equal to previous contour, so I am wondering about "amount of material removed" means.

A proposed data center on Federal land? If on Federal land that use wouldn't have any bearing on the private property project. If it does how?  What is its significance and area of disturbance on the project property.

What does Stamets e-coli experience have anything to do with your proposed project other than the flow through component?

There are people here from all over the globe, they wouldn't know anything about US policies unless one makes them aware.

10k of flat ground as initially described or 10k of mountainous and flat ground? This would be important for educated answers and solutions. Is it flat that requires no topographical info as you previously indicated?

40 mil budget. Is there any machinery, housing, cattle over and above that 40 mil? Is the 40 mil the absolute budget?

15 sq miles how fast do you see the project coming together? Earthwork, cross fencing, seeding, stock on the ground. Is it going to be done in increments or all in at the beginning.

If there is a mountainous component in the 10k what is that size. Its use would be far different as far as flat ground pasture. That difference would also influence AU productivity. What is the true topography? If there is an elevation component now, we can add many other water saving/gathering components. If so, area of and elevation information. Knowing where the mountainous area is on the projects site might influence rain and rain shadow influence computations.

Since we are talking creating a forage source I am puzzled by the fear of plant oxidation creating a fire hazard. To bring the proposed 1AU per acre there is going to be seasonal plant material on the site. My research into the Australians and Argentina impression trial sites made no reference to increased fire danger being a concern. It appears in fact that there is increased water retention, that would decrease fire hazard. I found no fire dangers concerns in the PDF papers from the US as of yet.

What state? Knowing this would help in making comments on what the water Gods of that state allows.

State of Emergency Flood Plains usually are in areas in which infrastructure, populations and escape routes are in jeopardy "during" a flood. Right now the S.W. is getting hammered. Is your project site close to a population center? Major highway? Utility infrastructure? What components will support an Emergency Flood Plan request that could release monies to implement and enhance your project?


This is a huge admirable project. Getting a true sense of budget, location, topography will allow folks to drill down to suggestions that are pertinent to your goals and location.


3 days ago
I would love to get large bulbs from my walking onions but in my particular area the bulbs never get very large, so my use is as if they are spring onions.  Perhaps there is a variety that develops a larger below ground bulb. Guess that gives me another thing to experiment with, replanting the ones that have larger bulbs to see if it carries on to the next batch.
3 days ago